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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Sheesh Steven, you freak me out from time to time
Seriously, i like a lot of Arnold's stuff, especially CASINO ROYALE which is absolutely kick-ass. But there's something very wrong with QOS. Anyway, enough of this.
I know what you mean (regardless of how much I like it). CR had a very different feel to it when I first heard it, but now it's grown on me immensely. QOS seems more of an extension of it to me. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
I was never fond of Arnold myself, to be honest. I do like Tomorrow Never Dies, Shaft and Stargate, but he never particularly amazed me.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
NP: The World Is Not Enough - David Arnold
I forgot how INCREDIBLE this score is. I really miss Arnold's fusion of massive symphony orchestra with electronic back beat. Arnold is very gifted when it comes down to meshing those two elements together and there is no greater example than "Back Seat Driver" in Tomorrow Never Dies and the brilliant "Come in 007, Your Time Is Up" from this score. His orchestral variation of the title song is very well done turning it into a very slinky, sexy tune with a distinct John Barry sound. "Ice Bandits" is another massive action cues that is absolutely delightful, fresh and thrilling. And Arnold really turns things up a notch with the ginormous 10 minute "Submarine" cue. All of the underscore in between is also quite interesting with more emphasis on the electronic sounds which adds a nice modern touch to the suspense cues and really keeps them moving forward which keeps the excitement and interest level up. I can easily say that this score beats the pants off Arnold's most recent Bond score.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Yay! Arnold love. Good. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Steven wrote
Yay! Arnold love. Good.
He's not a backseat driver is he????On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
I'm sorry, are you referring to the track title from TND?http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
PawelStroinski wrote
I'm sorry, are you referring to the track title from TND?
Er um YEAP!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Indy 4 Unreleased Cues - John Williams
Why on earth are these NOT on the soundtrack?! -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Where did you get that from?http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
Anthony wrote
Indy 4 Unreleased Cues - John Williams
Why on earth are these NOT on the soundtrack?!
Thank goodness for the DVD... but for the record... they are pretty standard - rather ordinary - action cues from the pen of Williams. In all honesty, I'm getting sick and tired of the chirping trumpets and generic action material. Jungle Chase has it's moments but it's those moment where the score sounds like it comes from the far superior Last Crusade. Those Olympic/Belly of the Steel Beast rhythms are certainly great but are being over used.
PawelStroinski wrote
Where did you get that from?
Disc 2 Pre-Viz section on the Special Edition DVD.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Pre-Viz section of Disc 2 on the Special Edition DVD.
Sweet, so that's where they're from! I'm not complaining - they're the two pieces of music I wanted from the movie and now they're out! -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Anthony wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Pre-Viz section of Disc 2 on the Special Edition DVD.
Sweet, so that's where they're from! I'm not complaining - they're the two pieces of music I wanted from the movie and now they're out!
Yup. I've now made a re-edit of the album with the two said tracks. A far better listen! -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Atham wrote
Anthony wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Pre-Viz section of Disc 2 on the Special Edition DVD.
Sweet, so that's where they're from! I'm not complaining - they're the two pieces of music I wanted from the movie and now they're out!
Yup. I've now made a re-edit of the album with the two said tracks. A far better listen!
The rear channels of the film also contain the entire score and there are sections where there's no SFX interference.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Steven wrote
Timmer wrote
Steven wrote
Deaf because they all listened to the awesomeness of David Arnold too much.
(There was a connection somewhere in there, and I managed to make it.)
And those that weren't deaf wished they were.
Because they knew no mortal soul should be allowed to take anymore awesomeness than they had already received.
I thought we'd been over this?
LOL -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
"Nothing But the Best" (LP to CD-R transfer)
By: Ron Grainer
It's got some moments, but overall it's a little too serious mickey mousing for me.
"Pony Soldier"
By: Alex North
A good score. I would guess you've got to be a fan of older scores to an extent to appreciate this.The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
justin boggan wrote
"Pony Soldier"
By: Alex North
A good score.
Would you care to elaborate, Justin? I keep listening to the available clips but still remain undecided about this one.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Christodoulides wrote
But i remember you weren't too fond of Santaolall-isms not even in their original form, right?
I think they've always worked in places. I don't think they should get Oscars, because it's usually about a good moment in a good scene. I don't think the approach has ever added up to a good whole score. And Santaolalla's scoring when he's not showing his guitar prowess is frankly pitiful.
(Personally, the Santaolalla album RONROCCO is something I've always enjoyed, ever since I tracked it down after seeing THE INSIDER.)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008 edited
Erik Woods wrote
NP: The World Is Not Enough - David Arnold
I forgot how INCREDIBLE this score is. I really miss Arnold's fusion of massive symphony orchestra with electronic back beat. Arnold is very gifted when it comes down to meshing those two elements together and there is no greater example than "Back Seat Driver" in Tomorrow Never Dies and the brilliant "Come in 007, Your Time Is Up" from this score. His orchestral variation of the title song is very well done turning it into a very slinky, sexy tune with a distinct John Barry sound. "Ice Bandits" is another massive action cues that is absolutely delightful, fresh and thrilling. And Arnold really turns things up a notch with the ginormous 10 minute "Submarine" cue. All of the underscore in between is also quite interesting with more emphasis on the electronic sounds which adds a nice modern touch to the suspense cues and really keeps them moving forward which keeps the excitement and interest level up. I can easily say that this score beats the pants off Arnold's most recent Bond score.
-Erik-
I used to like it a lot, but I think John Powell does the electronic backbeat stuff a lot better in the BOUNRE series. 'Pipeline' and 'Bunker' are fantastic cues though, and at least the song has a strong melody even if it is by - er- garbage.
He's using a lot more electronics in parts of QUANTUM than he did in CASINO ROYALE, but it's very different again to what he was doing back here in TWINE.
NP: Notes on a Scandal (Glass)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
FalkirkBairn wrote
justin boggan wrote
"Pony Soldier"
By: Alex North
A good score.
Would you care to elaborate, Justin? I keep listening to the available clips but still remain undecided about this one.
Exactly what are you trying to figure out about it?The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
justin boggan wrote
FalkirkBairn wrote
justin boggan wrote
"Pony Soldier"
By: Alex North
A good score.
Would you care to elaborate, Justin? I keep listening to the available clips but still remain undecided about this one.
Exactly what are you trying to figure out about it?
I was wondering whether having Pony Soldier adds anything more to my modest North collection. I've read that there are indications in this score of some of his later scores and so it seems to be an interesting title to have from that perspective.
But as money is tight, I keep thinking that getting this can wait.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Well, I am only familiar with four North scores, so I can't comment on that aspect. To me it doesn't matter whether a score "adds" anything to a collection, but rather if I enjoy listening to it.The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Erik Woods wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I'd say, to be honest, whether it's a good or bad call, the issue of whether the Bond theme makes an appearance probably was decided by the director. It's such a big call that I doubt Arnold had an entirely free hand there.
Which is utterly ridiculous. This is James Bond! It's like Indy without his theme. Yes, I know, Spielberg requested less of it in Last Crusade but at least it was still there. 6 or 7 times if I can recall of the top of my head which is just fine by me. But on the QOS album the only time we hear any samples of the Bond melody is during the quieter moments... which aren't bad... but not nearly as mind blowing as its use in - lets say - the high octane "Come in 007, Your Time Is Up" in The World Is Not Enough. Now that's a pure Bond cue that I would have loved to hear in the new score!
-Erik-
Here's a quote from an Australian newspaper article which reviewed the film: "As in Casino Royale, the famous John Barry theme tune is saved up until the end; a baffling decision, I always think, not to use this thrilling music at the beginning of the film."
I guess from the way he says it that there must be a bold brassy statement of the theme that isn't on the album that finishes the film.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I'd say, to be honest, whether it's a good or bad call, the issue of whether the Bond theme makes an appearance probably was decided by the director. It's such a big call that I doubt Arnold had an entirely free hand there.
Which is utterly ridiculous. This is James Bond! It's like Indy without his theme. Yes, I know, Spielberg requested less of it in Last Crusade but at least it was still there. 6 or 7 times if I can recall of the top of my head which is just fine by me. But on the QOS album the only time we hear any samples of the Bond melody is during the quieter moments... which aren't bad... but not nearly as mind blowing as its use in - lets say - the high octane "Come in 007, Your Time Is Up" in The World Is Not Enough. Now that's a pure Bond cue that I would have loved to hear in the new score!
-Erik-
Here's a quote from an Australian newspaper article which reviewed the film: "As in Casino Royale, the famous John Barry theme tune is saved up until the end; a baffling decision, I always think, not to use this thrilling music at the beginning of the film."
I guess from the way he says it that there must be a bold brassy statement of the theme that isn't on the album that finishes the film.
Well, at least it is in the film. -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
NP: Cutthroat Island - John Debney
What a roller-coaster ride!! -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Today I've hit up some:
Born on the 4th of July - my first listen ever, love it
Quantum of Solace
Alien 3 2 disc- A score I love
Congo - I've never liked this one as The Ghost and the Darkness, but what a theme it has
Dark Knight -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008 edited
NP:Boy in the striped Pyjama (Horner)
Eh! the first track has a gorgeous and tender piano theme!.....Can be this Horner's return?
Oh...wait, wait! "A beautiful Mind" secondary motif appears in the second track, an a sampled oboe version of the danger motif in the track "the funeral" (So what? We Know the Death is evil but anyway....), and the top of the "thing" the long "Strange new clothes" with the usual larger than life Horner strings and this typical piano notes in the middle.....
At least we have the classical oriented piano stuff, wich probably is a rip off of some classical composer, but it's still beautiful. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Atham wrote
Anthony wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Pre-Viz section of Disc 2 on the Special Edition DVD.
Sweet, so that's where they're from! I'm not complaining - they're the two pieces of music I wanted from the movie and now they're out!
Yup. I've now made a re-edit of the album with the two said tracks. A far better listen!
The rear channels of the film also contain the entire score and there are sections where there's no SFX interference.
-Erik-
Oh Erik, stop being such a mood killer. People want this music! I bet if it was something you just had you'd be going on about how great it was. -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Nautilus wrote
NP:Boy in the striped Pyjama (Horner)
Eh! the first track has a gorgeous and tender piano theme!.....Can be this Horner's return?
Oh...wait, wait! "A beautiful Mind" secondary motif appears in the second track, an a sampled oboe version of the danger motif in the track "the funeral" (So what? We Know the Death is evil but anyway....), and the top of the "thing" the long "Strange new clothes" with the usual larger than life Horner strings and this typical piano notes in the middle.....
At least we have the classical oriented piano stuff, wich probably is a rip off of some classical composer, but it's still beautiful.
What a lovely theme! I listened to the entire album before I went to bed last night, it's a very relaxing listen. The middle part of the album lags a bit, but there's some genuinely interesting (and new) ideas from Horner. Fans of All The Kings Men will like this one I think. -
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008 edited
NP:Quantum of Solace (Arnold).
I like every time more and more.
A mix bewenn "World is not enought" electronics and the most serious approach of "Casino Royale".
It contains a more rich orchestrations, textures and landscapes sounds than Casino Royale , wich was a little too "grey" score. It's not so coherent than Casino Royale but Quantum of Solace is a better album , like Tomorrow never dies and World is not enought was.
I want to know for what character is this motif heard in "night at the opera" or the Beggining of "Pursuit at pour Prince"....It could have been for Camille's character, because it's very sensual. Sadly I think Camille's theme is this Pan pipes motif (What's wrong with this pan pipes Guys?)
About Monty Norman's theme I think it appears enought. I think Monty Norman's theme is too relationet when Bond makes some kind of "amazing thing", and this is a more serious kind of movie. It's the same thing about use an heroic theme In Nolan's Batman. Anyway I think Arnold uses Norman's rynthm progressions very effectivily to let us know "James Bond" is on screen -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
I would also like to know what's wrong with the pan pipes. If you're sick of pan pipes, that's one thing. If they're a blatant sample or poorly recorded or used unimaginatively, that's another thing altogether.A butterfly thinks therefore I am