So ... Obama vs Mitt Mormoney

Peter, you've made good points, all. It is hyperbole to say that his heathcare plan is the only thing he's done, though other than running up the national debt, I think that's mainly what people will remember him for.

I like you, Peter. You seem to make my points better than me. Oh wait, no. I don't like you because you make better counter arguments.

Price of gas will go up irrespective of who is in office.

Thank you, Christopher.

I do think his first term will be remembered for more. Even Romney complimented Obama for several things, especially in the last debate they had. Snuffing out Osama Bin Laden, withdrawing from Iraq, saving the auto industry, sanctions on Iran and helping to get rid of Ghaddafi without commiting troops are a few things I remember Romney complimented.

I think this list is interesting. One can always debate the effects of the various accomplishments, and whether they were the right thing to do, but I do think many of them will be remembered.

Peter

Good list. I do think Obama did a good job on all of those things. How much of that will people remember in twenty years? What are they going to teach in history classes about Obama's first term? Definitely Iraq and Bin Laden. Healthcare. I'm not sure any of the rest of that will make the list. Which is not to say he didn't do a good job, I just don't know how much of it will stick.

I do need to amend my previous comment about what people will remember him for. Obviously I should have said what people will remember from his first term. He'll probably do a few more things in the next four years

The oil issue is absolutely insane. My daughter has a hybrid and her mileage is astounding as she does a lot of non freeway driving. When you think about how antiquated the gasoline engine is I for one wonder if the oil companies also have an unwritten bargain with the auto manufacturers.
Tom

They certainly do! I have always assumed that the optimal mileage for an engine is at 56mph because that's roughly the freeway speed limit in the US.

Thank goodness Obama won. I would hate for the Republicans to have succeeded in their stated #1 goal of making him a one-term president by becoming terrible obstructionists, putting party ahead of country. It has been reprehensible to watch (and if it had worked, the Democrats may have tried the same thing).

Obama's spending has increased by the least amount of any president in recent memory. The increase in the national debt is in large part from a reduction of revenues (less taxes from less people working, etc). That was a product of poor handling of the economy from his predecessor.

Add to that the opposition blocking untold number of bills that would spur jobs, and it cannot be said with a straight face that Obama is responsible for the still high unemployment (which is under 8% now) and the unsustainable increase in the national debt.

I did not care for Romney. He held just about every position on the same issues so I couldn't tell if he was a moderate that I could live with or an extreme right-winger that should be feared. I didn't trust him and while all political ads test the truth, those from his campaign and his billionaire backers stretched the truth further and when called out by fact checkers...stayed on the bloody air. They doubled down on the lies. Bad move.

I feel bad for him, but better for America (and the world) now that Obama will have 8 years to clean up what took a lot more than 8 years to screw up.

Ah, but as buttfucking retarded as they are, they're his religious beliefs and should be respected without question.

It is a democracy and right or wrong they're entitled to a vote.

I agree with you Steven but that isn't how democracy works.
Tom

Exactly, it gives people like this the right to vote

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