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[Closed] Now Playing ( NON film / game / tv scores ) - Part III

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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 1st 2009
    Martijn wrote
    sdtom wrote
    Were any of you aware of the fact that Saint-Saens liked little boys?


    No, he liked adolescent boys, which, while obviously still questionable, is rather different from the implied pedophila. Allegedly he once angrily retorted when faced with accusations of being homosexual: "I am not homosexual, I am a pederast!" Odd defense to put forward, but anyway...

    EDIT:
    Some further investigation yields that he likely was being sarcastic in his response.
    Most biographers now accept that he was in fact homosexual, so his sardonic "pederast" remark may well have been in -misguided- biting anger.

    The charge that he was too clever by half hounded him to his grave, and, while he lived, his cranky temperament didn't win him many friends. He deserted his wife after the early death of their two children. In response to rumors about his sexuality, he once responded angrily, "I am not a homosexual; I am a pederast!" It is said that on the occasion of his 83rd birthday party, half the people in the room weren't speaking to him.


    Tchaikovsky, Copeland, Corigliano, Leonard Bernstein and more....ALL gay.

    So what!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 1st 2009
    End of the 19th century?
    Pretty big what. slant
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    An adolescent to me is a little boy Martijn.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    NP: GRANDE FANTAISIE ON RUSSIAN FOLKSONGS, OP 4....MILY BALAKIREV This is a piece that is very nationalist in flavor.
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Martijn wrote
    End of the 19th century?
    Pretty big what. slant


    For sure Martijn, I'm just talking about the view point now.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Tchaikovsky being gay just made his music all that more emotional when you listen to it, considering the hardship the guy must have gone through in those days. He had a troubled personality (to put it mildly) if I'm not wrong, did he not?
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Steven wrote
    Tchaikovsky being gay just made his music all that more emotional when you listen to it, considering the hardship the guy must have gone through in those days. He had a troubled personality (to put it mildly) if I'm not wrong, did he not?


    Oh yeah. That's probably putting it mildly and in turn takes us back to Martijn's comment about it being a 'big deal' in the 19th century.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    In music is there a bliss beyond bliss? Yes there is, it's called...........


    NP : THE LARK ASCENDING - Ralph Vaughan Williams



    No more comment cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    I really don't think being gay had anything at all to do with Tchaikovsky and his ability to write music emotionally. He is just an excellent composer
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    sdtom wrote
    I really don't think being gay had anything at all to do with Tchaikovsky and his ability to write music emotionally. He is just an excellent composer


    Oh I think so Tom, all those emotions in conflict and turmoil are bound to bring out the greatest of creativity.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    sdtom wrote
    I really don't think being gay had anything at all to do with Tchaikovsky and his ability to write music emotionally. He is just an excellent composer


    I didn't say that though, Tom. I said his being gay affected the emotion in his music, not his ability to write emotional music.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    I really believe he was a great talent and had a passion for music above and beyond whether he was gay or not.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Sure. But what I'm saying is the fact that he was gay, in those days, meant he would have gone through a lot of turmoil. Since real music is all about expressing and revealing yourself, I'm pretty sure what we hear in his music is in some way connected to those particular problems of homosexuality during a time of extreme homophobia. Simple as that Tom. I'm certainly not saying being gay makes you any more or less of a composer.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Better put than I said it Steven.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Same goes for SAMUEL BARBER.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  16. You mean, being gay?
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    PawelStroinski wrote
    You mean, being gay?


    Yes.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  18. Adagio for Strings is a beauty, it really doesn't matter.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Adagio for Strings is a beauty, it really doesn't matter.


    Yes it is a lovely piece of music. I believe it's D's all time favourite piece!?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Adagio for Strings is a beauty, it really doesn't matter.


    Huh?
  21. OK, that doesn't sound too good...

    I mean, I think it never really mattered, what sexuality did a composer have. Gay composers lived in the closet until now, really. End of XIXth Century was VERY bad, indeed and living in the closet is hard, but what I'm telling is that while they had their turmoils, every artist had them in some way or the another. It's the turmoil that makes their art beautiful.

    I agree with Tom smile.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009 edited
    I'm not necessarily sure there's much to disagree with here. I'm not disputing what Tom says, I just think he might have got the wrong end of the stick.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    I have a gay friend back home who had a very hard time even coming to terms with it himself, even in this day and age. Back in Tchaikovsky's day, I can only imagine how hard that must have been!?
  24. I think that the real problem is the self-acceptance, not the society. If you have self-esteem high enough, you just don't give a fuck. You already know better.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Timmer wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Adagio for Strings is a beauty, it really doesn't matter.


    Yes it is a lovely piece of music. I believe it's D's all time favourite piece!?


    It is. By far.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd 2009
    Steven wrote
    I'm not necessarily sure there's much to disagree with here. I'm not disputing what Tom says, I just think he might have got the wrong end of the stick.


    I have a good friend who's gay but didn't 'come out' for the first 15 years that I knew him ( and I never even guessed, I don't have "gay-dar" so can't spot gay unless it's more overt ), the pressure of keeping his "secret" caused him to have a severe mental breakdown. He's nearly back to normal now and being 'out' has helped him enormously, especially as all his friends have stuck by and supported him and he realised it didn't make any difference to us. Unfortunately some members of his family haven't been quite so accepting which shows it's still not plain sailing even in this day and age.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2009
    I understand the point that Steven is trying to make. We can also say that because of opiates and alcohol Moussorgsky wrote a great work "Night on the Bald Mountain." The emotions certainly do play a part in all of this.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2009
    NP: Carmina Burana - Carl Orff

    Great choral/orchestral work! punk
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2009
    William wrote
    NP: Carmina Burana - Carl Orff

    Great choral/orchestral work! punk


    Call me a heathen but apart from that particular popular piece used in numerous films, adverts and usually mistaken by ignoramouses as the score to The Omen I find the complete work very boring.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    William wrote
    NP: Carmina Burana - Carl Orff

    Great choral/orchestral work! punk


    Call me a heathen but apart from that particular popular piece used in numerous films, adverts and usually mistaken by ignoramouses as the score to The Omen I find the complete work very boring.


    I'll grant you there are quite a few boring ones, but there are a few gems which I just can't ignore. And the ones that I do like are favorites.

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