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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008 edited
    Don't you worry mate; you too will slowly come around realizing the inevitable; that Brian Tyler actually rules wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    AVPR fucking rules, but I haven't really found another score by him that I love. sad
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    Anthony wrote
    AVPR fucking rules, but I haven't really found another score by him that I love. sad


    what have you listened by him so far?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    AVPR, War, Rambo, Fast And The Furious and Constantine. confused
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008 edited
    Children of dune
    frailty
    the hunted
    darkness falls
    timeline


    now, played REALLY loud. wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    I really like Tyler. The only problem I have are with his albums and their lengths, and to cut them down to a more enjoyable running time means carefully listening to the whole CD and cherry picking the best cues... which I usually can't arsed to do.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    What's Dune like? That sounds interesting based on what the film is about.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    oh and replay WAR, loud ;0
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    The first couple of tracks of War were great (the Main Titles were very Powellish), but the rest of it just fell kind of flat I thought. sad
  1. Anthony wrote
    What's Dune like? That sounds interesting based on what the film is about.


    Dune's like a bastard child of Goldsmith and Gladiator with some Lifeforce theme put in. Thematically his best work for sure.

    War I heard once and wasn't amazed. My warming up to Tyler isn't because of the merits of his music in and of itself (which for me there aren't many of them, no compositional technique makes up for the fact that he's just messy in his action scoring, even if complex you just don't pick the parts and get wowed by each part and its thematic material like you do with the masters), but because of his functionality. I think actually Rambo was the first Tyler-scored film I saw. And, ironically, originally because of his assignment I actually planned to pass on the movie.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008 edited
    Anthony wrote
    What's Dune like? That sounds interesting based on what the film is about.


    It has ONE really good track! The rest is so-so with a few good moments but not very memorable.

    Better than Revell's effort but nowhere near Toto's original for the David Lynch film.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    I disagree dear Tim, i could never understand how could anyone like Toto's original score over Tyler's!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    I disagree dear Tim, i could never understand how could anyone like Toto's original score over Tyler's!


    Easy, it's More powerful, More melodic, More mystical and More better! biggrin

    And faaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more original!

    even though it probably had more people working on this score than an MV / RC score wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Christodoulides wrote
    I disagree dear Tim, i could never understand how could anyone like Toto's original score over Tyler's!


    Many people actually do prefer Toto's version. I think even that one is preferred to both TV scores to Dune taken together, though that would be definitely unfair towards Tyler's unoriginal, but good score.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008
    Yeah, i think it's more a nostalgia issue rather than a clearly musical one wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  3. Actually, I haven't heard the Toto score outside of the film except the great Desert Theme. but the score was very fitting for the movie, probably the best thing about the rather weak (and my first David Lynch) film.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeMar 6th 2008 edited
    HULK
    Is it OK for a guy to think another guy is cute? ‘Cause Eric Bana can be terribly cute. Still, when Poor Cute Guy turns into Green CGI Guy, he just wants to kill Bad Guys and save the Nice Lady. Hartless Bitch, previously known as Nice Lady, just wants to help the military to kill Poor CGI Guy. Because, y’know, deep down, she still loves him. Oh well, at least Ang Lee knew it was a silly story, and opted for even more silly editing techniques. And because the story is really silly, he goes a little over the top with those. I just forgot; were we supposed to go along with all the deeper psychological layers and that dash of Americana bashing, or not? Eric Bana was cute, though, did I mention that?
  4. MAGIC

    This Richard Attenborough film is quite disappointing. While it's nice to see a chamber piece from the director, and the score by Goldsmith is very interesting, this doesn't quite work. Corky's reason for fleeing to the country doesn't seem credible, and it's a shame that thereafter it had to descend into a cabin fever movie. And the ending - are we meant to see Fats as some mad supernatural creature? Some very good sequences though - including the opening scene - and Burgess Meredith gives a strong performance. (Hopkins hams it up a bit, but it's good-tasting ham.)

    Annoying feature in films: A character in the film is an artist/performer, and the other characters in the film are impressed far out of proportion to the audience of the film. There's a scene like this quite early, where two characters keep commenting on how wonderful a performer Corky is, but Corky isn't really THAT good.

    I don't suppose anyone has seen the Ealing studio film that this one was clearly inspired by, DEAD OF NIGHT? (Michael Redgrave plays a man like Hopkins, a puppeteer who becomes possessed by his puppet.) SECRET WINDOW seems to have borrowed a few ideas from this film.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2008
    Anthony wrote
    What's Dune like? That sounds interesting based on what the film is about.


    It isn't. Gladiator rip-offs and another album that goes on way, way beyond what the quality of music could ever sustain.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2008 edited
    franz_conrad wrote
    MAGIC

    This Richard Attenborough film is quite disappointing. While it's nice to see a chamber piece from the director, and the score by Goldsmith is very interesting, this doesn't quite work. Corky's reason for fleeing to the country doesn't seem credible, and it's a shame that thereafter it had to descend into a cabin fever movie. And the ending - are we meant to see Fats as some mad supernatural creature? Some very good sequences though - including the opening scene - and Burgess Meredith gives a strong performance. (Hopkins hams it up a bit, but it's good-tasting ham.)

    Annoying feature in films: A character in the film is an artist/performer, and the other characters in the film are impressed far out of proportion to the audience of the film. There's a scene like this quite early, where two characters keep commenting on how wonderful a performer Corky is, but Corky isn't really THAT good.

    I don't suppose anyone has seen the Ealing studio film that this one was clearly inspired by, DEAD OF NIGHT? (Michael Redgrave plays a man like Hopkins, a puppeteer who becomes possessed by his puppet.) SECRET WINDOW seems to have borrowed a few ideas from this film.



    I've seen DEAD OF NIGHT, you're spot on Michael. ( so you're wrong....someone has seen it! tongue wink )

    I saw MAGIC when it was released but not since....says it all really rolleyes

    I like the score though!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2008
    Southall wrote
    Anthony wrote
    What's Dune like? That sounds interesting based on what the film is about.


    It isn't. Gladiator rip-offs and another album that goes on way, way beyond what the quality of music could ever sustain.


    It is, with one of the finest scores Tyler has ever produced.
    There's a middle-eastern flavour to underscore the nomadic and desert scenes, but it's all very thematic, including some thunderous percussive pieces Tyler so excels at (and not a Wagner rip in sight! biggrin )
    Highly recommended!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. I thought CHILDREN OF DUNE was one of Tyler's better scores. It is a bit long, but I found I listened to it a lot around the time I watched the miniseries. Certainly was quite a step up from Revell's score.

    Last night I saw...

    Last year at Marienbad (Renais) - Yes, again! My first viewing put me to sleep owing to a couple of glasses of white wine consumed with pasta beforehand. My second viewing was quite different - I picked a chair that would not make me drowsy, and tried to concentrate more on the subtitles (what the characters are saying) this time. And I made it through... and I started to see the humour in it.

    Mirror (Tarkovsky) - Also a repeat! My first viewing last weekend had been split in two, and I really hadn't concentrated as much as I should have. Unlike the other Tarkovsky films I've seen - Solaris and Ivan's Childhood - there doesn't seem to be a straightforward story to follow here, but I think I've started to figure out what's going on. Tarkovsky was such a superb director of the camera.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
    franz_conrad wrote
    Last year at Marienbad (Renais) - Yes, again! My first viewing put me to sleep owing to a couple of glasses of white wine consumed with pasta beforehand. My second viewing was quite different - I picked a chair that would not make me drowsy, and tried to concentrate more on the subtitles (what the characters are saying) this time. And I made it through... and I started to see the humour in it.


    Do not...DO NOT get me started on Last Millennium In Marienbad. Harry Medved quite rightly includes it in his 50 Worst Movies Of All Time. Any humour you may discern is IN SPITE of its atrsitic pretense, or due to the utter and painful ineptness of every single aspect of that film.
    No, no, no. Not going to be dragged into this.
    I will fulminate for a full page.
    Let's move on to safer, less controversial subjects.
    Like Philip Glass.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  6. LOL. Let's avoid the fulminations, as they will be most unfruitful. I think if nothing else you'd have to admire the camerawork of MARIENBAD - no painful ineptitude there. It makes that castle set feel like a never-ending maze of rooms. I've seen enough of Renais' other films to know there's always a bit of parody of melodramas going on. Hey, these guys can't all be wrong:
    http://www.filmforum.org/films/marienbad.html
    You don't often get Rosenbaum, Ebert, and Andrew Sarris agreeing on a film so positively. Of course, that might be because Kael hated it. wink

    Suffice to say, for anyone who thinks THE FOUNTAIN is challenging viewing, MARIENBAD is your next marathon.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Actually, I haven't heard the Toto score outside of the film except the great Desert Theme. but the score was very fitting for the movie, probably the best thing about the rather weak (and my first David Lynch) film.


    ....but very inferior compared to Tyler's orchestral beast, imo.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  7. CHILDREN OF DUNE is not an 'orchestral beast'. There is not a lot of action music - a lot of it is more emotional and atmospheric material with ethnic influences.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
    Yeah, and at the same time kick-ass loud pieces of exciting arrangements and grand sound; together with what you mention make up for a very effective and passionate score overall, imo.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
    Christodoulides wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Actually, I haven't heard the Toto score outside of the film except the great Desert Theme. but the score was very fitting for the movie, probably the best thing about the rather weak (and my first David Lynch) film.


    ....but very inferior compared to Tyler's orchestral beast, imo.


    Not at all! tongue

    I like Tyler's score but it's luke warm compared to Toto's more original music.

    p.s. The 'Desert Theme' was written by Brian Eno.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2008
    Vantage Point

    The biggest piece of ''Meh'' I've seen in a long time. The time device thing is a good idea, but why must we go back t othe EXACTLY SAME SHOT with the EXACT SAME CLOCK telling us it's midday again 8 times! We get the point after the first time. Everyone in the cinema just went ''uuuuuugh'' each time it happenned. There were a couple of good twists though but I won't ruin them here. 3/5
  8. Christodoulides wrote
    Yeah, and at the same time kick-ass loud pieces of exciting arrangements and grand sound; together with what you mention make up for a very effective and passionate score overall, imo.


    I disagree. It is some of Tyler's best work, but the originality problems (Gladiator especially) and I think not the best performance ever (want a good New Age/restrained performance - try some JNH, preferrably Atlantis) don't make this work "passionate"
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website