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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Marselus wrote
Righteous Kill
I assume they´ve received dozens of scripts during their careers to work together (and I mean together, not in the same film where they don´t share a single line)
There are very few actor pairings that have involved sharing lines!
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
I too heard it was a real crappy hollywood mess so i avoided it and thankfully, i went a watched VICKY, CHRISTINA, BARCELONA instead, the new Woody Allen flick with Scarlett Johanson (inlove), Penelope Cruz (inlove) and the cooler than life Javie dude which was (let me tell you in just 2 words)
A FUCKING GEMLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Marselus wrote
Righteous Kill
I assume they´ve received dozens of scripts during their careers to work together (and I mean together, not in the same film where they don´t share a single line)
There are very few actor pairings that have involved sharing lines!
franz_conrad wrote
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.
Yeah, I was referring to Heat, Michael Mann´s masterpiece. And you are right, those two scenes together (although we never really see them together) are far better than the films they´ve done later.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Marselus wrote
Righteous Kill
I assume they´ve received dozens of scripts during their careers to work together (and I mean together, not in the same film where they don´t share a single line)
There are very few actor pairings that have involved sharing lines!
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.
Sadly you are right!
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
I watched a film I'm sure none of you have ever seen and I wanted to hear the Maxie score. That was Pursued (1947) with Robert Mitchum. An interesting western about a tale of revenge. It also had Teresa Wright from Best Years of Our Lives and Judith Anderson from Rebecca.
Thomas
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- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
I saw Heat recently, and like most masterpieces I found it very overrated. The chilling DeNiro/Pacino scene in the diner everyone talks about was truly epic, but did I really have to sit through 2h45 of impersonal gloss just to experience that one scene? If someone can explain to me why I should care about these characters, please indulge me because I feel I missed the boat. When it comes to movies about double- and triple-crossing and cop-and-robbers cat-and-mousing, nothing comes close to The Departed, in my opinion. And as much as I love Goldenthal, Heat isn't one of his most fun scores. Shore's Departed, however, pure bliss.
Oh, and I lie, there was one other truly classic moment in Heat: "She's got a niiiice ass! And you've got your head all the way up it! When I think of asses -women's asses- something comes out of me." Classic stuff. This needs to become the next "They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard" Internet phenomenon, no joke.
Watched last night: Jurassic Park III. Okay, so it was fluff with barely any character depth (which is surprising considering Joe Johnston's usually flair for chemistry and depth), but I still do like Davis' work and his new theme, and the Spinosaur scene in the cage on the river was genuinely exciting, I thought. William H. Macy for the win!''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
Day of the Dead 2008
straight to video remake with surprise surprise Ving Rhames
man, this is one pile of crap. I'm sorry but there are but some things that zombies can do, but what kind of stunts they do here is so over the top it's fricking hilarious. It also looked more like a Uwe Boll film at times, it was stupid as hell
I didn't expect miracles but the fact it went straight to video should have made me think twice of renting it
Crap that doesn't do the brilliant previous remake (the awesome Dawn of the Dead) any justice
Ps, these script writers are brilliant, they call it DAY of the dead but almost the entire movie is happening at NIGHT, gotta love their intelligence, I suppose this movie was probably made by zombies too
3 out of 10waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Well i'll give some of you people this: you do have courage; lots of it!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Marselus wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.
Yeah, I was referring to Heat, Michael Mann´s masterpiece. And you are right, those two scenes together (although we never really see them together) are far better than the films they´ve done later.
I think they're framed in a two-shot, with a table between them, at one point in the cafe scene. Only in the final shot though are they close to each other, without any barriers. (Which is a very clever directorial choice, if you think about it.)
Actually, it's three scenes, now that I think about it. The scene where Pacino pulls over DeNiro would have been listed as a separate scene in the script, and shot on a separate night.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008 edited
HeeroJF wrote
When it comes to movies about double- and triple-crossing and cop-and-robbers cat-and-mousing, nothing comes close to The Departed, in my opinion. And as much as I love Goldenthal, Heat isn't one of his most fun scores. Shore's Departed, however, pure bliss.
The films are clearly trying something very very different. HEAT is the bleakest of urban dramas - melancholy over unhappy lives draped over every frame. It's almost Shakespearean. To expect Goldenthal's score to be anything like 'fun' is to get the film completely wrong. THE DEPARTED is more of a lark, like THE THIRD MAN, and Shore's playful tango works a lot like Anton Karas's zither in that film, plying the 'life is cheap' vibe. Don't ask a film to be something that it isn't when it does what it does very well. I quite like THE DEPARTED, even if INFERNAL AFFAIRS always struck me as stronger than the remake. But HEAT is in a class of its own. Mann may have directed THE INSIDER better, but this is his most personal film, and the most rewarding for those who like his approach to filmmaking.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
I agree with Michael. The Departed is a very good cop drama, lighter, fun in places. Heat is on a wholly different level, i actually love the film and score too. Very touching stuff.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Marselus wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.
Yeah, I was referring to Heat, Michael Mann´s masterpiece. And you are right, those two scenes together (although we never really see them together) are far better than the films they´ve done later.
I think they're framed in a two-shot, with a table between them, at one point in the cafe scene.
Yes I remember that scene. Although if I´m not mistaken, we never see them in the same shot. Anyway, great sequence, great dialogue.
franz_conrad wrote
Only in the final shot though are they close to each other, without any barriers. (Which is a very clever directorial choice, if you think about it.)
Indeed. And what a better way to finish the movie.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
The films are clearly trying something very very different. HEAT is the bleakest of urban dramas - melancholy over unhappy lives draped over every frame.
Is that why I was so unhappy watching it?''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 20th 2008
Marselus wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Marselus wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Kidding aside, if you're referring to HEAT, two good scenes together is better than all the films either of them have done since.
Yeah, I was referring to Heat, Michael Mann´s masterpiece. And you are right, those two scenes together (although we never really see them together) are far better than the films they´ve done later.
I think they're framed in a two-shot, with a table between them, at one point in the cafe scene.
Yes I remember that scene. Although if I´m not mistaken, we never see them in the same shot. Anyway, great sequence, great dialogue.
franz_conrad wrote
Only in the final shot though are they close to each other, without any barriers. (Which is a very clever directorial choice, if you think about it.)
Indeed. And what a better way to finish the movie.
Yes, they are in one two shot, but most of TV's cut this off in the broadcast.
For me Heat is one of the best crime dramas I've seen, great acting, great cinematography, use of music, great script.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Timmer wrote
...It's very close to King's book too.
Until Shawshank came along this may well have been the closest King adaptation!?
Funny, but when Anne and I were watching it she said that it wasn't particularly faithful to the book.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
FalkirkBairn wrote
Timmer wrote
...It's very close to King's book too.
Until Shawshank came along this may well have been the closest King adaptation!?
Funny, but when Anne and I were watching it she said that it wasn't particularly faithful to the book.
I think the only big section taken out of the book was a sequence where a school burns down, a good decision on Cronenberg's part as it was too reminicent of CARRIE. Obviously you can't get as in-depth in a film as a book allows but the bare bones of the story are all there!?
Can you get Anne to elaborate on how she thought it differed so much Alan?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Timmer wrote
Can you get Anne to elaborate on how she thought it differed so much Alan?
Will do...The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
HeeroJF wrote
franz_conrad wrote
The films are clearly trying something very very different. HEAT is the bleakest of urban dramas - melancholy over unhappy lives draped over every frame.
Is that why I was so unhappy watching it?
That's it - you're getting into the mood of it now!
A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Heat is one of my favourite films, not only because of the classic shootout-sequence, but the way the characters are so defined, and how Mann masterfully directs their own storylines to the point where all cross each other. One other strong point of this film is the mood, created through lighting, sound design, and editing. A little guilty pleasure but this movie also has one of the best Dolby tracks I've ever heard, play this loud and you'll not believe your ears. The whole shootout is already incredibly intense, but the Airport finale takes it a step further, with the most amazing surround sound in existence. I mean I literally feel the planes taking off and landing: they sound like planes in real life sound.
And the whole cast deliver top notch performances: Pacino knows how to be funny, yet menacing at the same time, and De Niro is his calculated self."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
A bit MORE than calculated self, I would say. He does love that woman, but when it comes to the decision him or her, the choice is obvious. But I think that yes, he does love her. It's an emotional situation for him and we can see it.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
I Guardiani del Cielo (Guardian of the Skies/ Tower of the Firstborn)
OMG! OMG! This has to be the worst movie with the best score. Forget Jerry Goldsmith and all the turkeys he scored. This one puts everyone to shame. I've barely managed to see only 1 hour of the 3 hour long film but every minute was unintentionally hilarious with cheesy acting and costumes. There's a lot of great music material here that did not make it on the cd. Someone needs to do an expanded score!
I hope the director Alberto Negrin has gone on to do better films. Otherwise it would just hurt to see Ennio Morricone waste so much good music for his films. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Well i'll give some of you people this: you do have courage; lots of it!
thanks, I take that compliment on me then
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
franz_conrad wrote
HeeroJF wrote
franz_conrad wrote
The films are clearly trying something very very different. HEAT is the bleakest of urban dramas - melancholy over unhappy lives draped over every frame.
Is that why I was so unhappy watching it?
That's it - you're getting into the mood of it now!
Sorry for the snarkiness, but yeah I wasn't particularly on the edge of my seat the whole time (the whole looooooong time!), or caring about any of these characters. Not even Natalie Portman's emo character! I think I liked Tom Sizemore best. The first truck heist did have me on edge, but not the other "classic" shootout. Just so much running around without any score. After that first heist it was all downhill for me. And way, wayyyy too confusing a plot. Movies with too many characters quickly lose me because I'm no good at remembering names. For instance, I loved Gosford Park, but was so helplessly lost within its cast.
And it's true it's not fair to expect Goldenthal's music to be "fun", but even hard-edged urban scores can be "interesting" to listen to, if not fun. I can appreciate the score to Heat for what it is, but I'm such a big Goldenthal fan that pretty much all his other works are much, much more to my liking.''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
Batman Returns and Batman & Robin are fun scores. (An understatement if ever there was one.) -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
BhelPuri wrote
I Guardiani del Cielo (Guardian of the Skies/ Tower of the Firstborn)
OMG! OMG! This has to be the worst movie with the best score. Forget Jerry Goldsmith and all the turkeys he scored. This one puts everyone to shame. I've barely managed to see only 1 hour of the 3 hour long film but every minute was unintentionally hilarious with cheesy acting and costumes. There's a lot of great music material here that did not make it on the cd. Someone needs to do an expanded score!
I hope the director Alberto Negrin has gone on to do better films. Otherwise it would just hurt to see Ennio Morricone waste so much good music for his films.
The photos in the CD booklet always looked terrible. I'll make sure I take the chance to watch it if it comes on. Sometimes a hilariously serious Italian film is just the thing!A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorMiya
- CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
Marselus wrote
Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea
Miyazaki proves again what a huge imagination he has. But overall the movie is not as great as most of his work. The "walk in the waves" scene is superb though (both picture and score). One of the most beautiful sequences I´ve watched lately.
Is it already released outside Japan?
I felt that Miyazaki's imagination became too huge and the story couldn't hold it (I'm not sure this phrase is appropriate in English...). The story was confusing. But it was worth seeing on big screen, because of the wonderful hand-drawn animation... it was purely "moving drawings".
Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
Miya wrote
Marselus wrote
Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea
Miyazaki proves again what a huge imagination he has. But overall the movie is not as great as most of his work. The "walk in the waves" scene is superb though (both picture and score). One of the most beautiful sequences I´ve watched lately.
Is it already released outside Japan?
I felt that Miyazaki's imagination became too huge and the story couldn't hold it (I'm not sure this phrase is appropriate in English...). The story was confusing. But it was worth seeing on big screen, because of the wonderful hand-drawn animation... it was purely "moving drawings".
I watched it at the Sitges Film Festival
Yes the animation and design are really beautiful, but not among Miyazaki´s best films. I liked the storm mood of the first half of the film though. You could almost feel the rain and the wind.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
Iron Man
After several negative comments, I was braced for impact, but I was more than pleasantly surprised by the latest Marvel superhero outing. Well scripted, well paced, very well directed, with enough exposure to make sure the characters weren't as flat in most other Marvel hero films, but with more than enough action to balance things out.
And, surprisingly, it really had a lot of heart.
I found myself liking Tony Stark a lot more than I did McGuire's Peter Parker (Spiderman), Chiklis' Ben Grimm (The Fantastic Four), or Bana's Bruce Banner (The Hulk). This in no small part is due to the wonderful Robert Downey Jr. (who really, really, really is underused in Hollywood...though that's his own fault, sadly), who makes a comic book character a real-life, likable, interesting persona, but also to the excellent casting of the secondary roles: both (unrecognisable!!
) Jeff Bridges and the ever-lovely Gwyneth Paltrow as Stark's long-time assistant Pepper Potts. The electricity between Paltrow And Downey Jr. is just mesmerizing, and Bridges never once falls into the Doctor Doom one-dimensional bad guy trap.
Kudos too, though, to a script that, better than ever before in a Marvel film, plays off the strengths of the character and actually has them engage in credible and poignant dialogue, leading to reasonable, believable actions. Additionally, the dry wit that the script writers imbued Tony with never turns stale, which is a bit of an achievement, both on the script side as on the acor's side
At this point I'd say that of all the Marvel films of recent years, this might well be my favourite...which is really saying something as I never really got into the Iron Man comics the way I did with The Fantastic Four and Spiderman (and to a lesser extent The Incredible Hulk).
If I were to be really critical the only true weak points of the film, would be the rather blatant Robocop 2 rip-off for the Big Finale, and -as has been observed before in this very forum- the music, which isn't bad in the movie (though it would NEVER hold up as a stand-alone listen), but is puerile in the extreme: enough with the hard rock guitar when we're supposed to see something "awesome". It ill fits the film, which would have benefitted a LOT from a more symphonic score.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
I presume this has just been released on DVD Martijn?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
...er.
Ah.
Well.
Em.
You may very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment.
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
