JAMES CAMERON

βρε δεν μας παρατάτε λέω 'γω...!

I see you have the ring to rule them all.

Don´t worry, I can totally understand your point.

What I wanted to express was that even though we have one of the best dubbing industries of the world, the result is still unsatisfying to most people here who are capable of watching the originals. But because the studios do it well enough the vast majority of Germans doesn´t even think about it and would never notice anything, but if you start to compare and know what to listen for, you almost immediately realize how wrong this is, but german dubbing usually IS very good compared to other countries.

Most foreign actors have a very specific german actor who speaks their part, so if, for example, the german voice of Bruce Willis does a radio commercial for a tool shop, they can do it as if Bruce Willis did that commercial.

That still doesn´t help under certain circumstances. For example, Rolf Schult is the german voice of Robert Redford, Anthony Hopkins, and others. If you are german and see one them on the screen, he always has that voice. You know it, recognise it, and it settles in. Now imagine what happens if Redford and Hopkins do a movie together. They have to choose another voice for one of them, and it is irritating as hell.

But I really have to speak up for those dubbing actors. Most of the time, they do an excellent job, as they are often accomplished german actors themselves with lots of experience in film, TV, and theatre. They really do their very best. It´s the translation that´s the problem, because in Germany, dubbing studios prefer to translate the texts in a way that makes them fit with the lip movements of the original actor, so they try to find a translation that fits those movements and still expresses what the original meant. Too often, this can´t be accomplished, and they always go for the correct lip movement instead of the correct translation, as if it would be more important to get the illusion more right than the message. THAT´s what´s the real crime here.

Dommage, que tu n'as pas les accents lá...

Ta mére sent mieux maintenant?

SCORE!

It means Give us a freaking break with that crap.

Nope. You clearly put the emphasis incorrectly on 'paratate', and you mispronounced 'bre'.

Hey guys, shall we talk about James Cameron?

Ralph,

that's interesting info about dubbing in Germany. It does increase my respect a little. Perhaps much of my contempt for dubbing is due to the fact that children movies in Denmark are dubbed, and not being a huge industry it tends to stink, even when skilled danish actors are used. There's nothing worse than reading the TV guide, noticing Shrek will be on the telly and planning your evening around it and looking forward to it, buying candy and cola and sitting down in front of the screen in excitement, and moronic danish actors starts speaking in idiot voices! No charming Myers irish accent, no hilarious Eddie Murphy, just idiots trying and failing to be funny and making the movie appear juvenile. Argh!!! It's experiences like this that fuels my contempt.

Another problem is that we have german channels in Denmark. If you guys just subtitled the movies, then we'd benefit from it too whenever american and english movies were on.

Peter

It's funny how the standard of many countries, including mine too, it's a far-away dream for so many people!

No he's not!

Fiedel's score for T2 is amazing ( T1 also ), absolutely perfect! I couldn't listen to it on CD though.

The first sounds like Keyboard Cat.

I always liked his score to horror / occult film The Serpent And The Rainbow.