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  1. The Final Cut? smile
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2010 edited
    Yup.

    I know they made some effects updates, but I didn´t notice anything.
    Definitely not right into your face like the SW Special Editions.
    Whatever they did, it was seemless, everything looked spectacular.

    And I really like the Cut.

    But I really mean it, watch the Blu ray. The same cut came on standard PAL TV a couple of weeks ago, and it looked like shit there. I mean, still better than a lot of movies from the early 80ies, but compared to HD it sucked.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2010
    The Edge - Jerry Goldsmith

    Now what's this? A serious film - but the score has a THEME! My god, how ridiculous. How cheesy. How did anyone manage to get through the film without exploding into uncontrollable bursts of laughter?
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2010 edited
    And it´s a ripoff from The Time Machine, too.
    Really, Goldsmith at his lowest.






    wink
  2. Southall wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Old Souls.

    And Erik, don't tell me that the strings in the end of Dream within a Dream don't sound like a Bond score.


    I can hear it but I must admit I wouldn't have noticed it if it hadn't been for so many people mentioning it. I don't think it's that blatant. (The Vangelis is, though.)


    To me, the Barry influence (and Vangelis influence) is most clear in 'Old Souls'. The melody itself and the way the melody is echoed in the accompanying arrangement suggest Barry. The texture suggests Vangelis (and in its' own way recalls some of his melodies from BLADE RUNNER).
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  3. Exactly, Barry´s thematic approach mixed with Vangelis´ sound.

    Did I mention how much I love this score?
  4. Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Yup.

    I know they made some effects updates, but I didn´t notice anything.
    Definitely not right into your face like the SW Special Editions.
    Whatever they did, it was seemless, everything looked spectacular.

    And I really like the Cut.

    But I really mean it, watch the Blu ray. The same cut came on standard PAL TV a couple of weeks ago, and it looked like shit there. I mean, still better than a lot of movies from the early 80ies, but compared to HD it sucked.


    I don't have BLU yet. I got the DVD and I love it anyway. I watch for the movie and the sheer genius, not the quality smile
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    Of course, but the quality is an enhancement I never would have expected.
    I literally had to look for my jaw several times.
    This movie made me change to Blu Ray almost immediately
    (and usually I´m many years behind newest trends).
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    NP: The A-Team - Alan Silvestri

    I really enjoy this score. Yeah, I'm completely surprised by this realization. I have to listen to this score once a day and even though there's nothing new to discover the beyond that first two listen, the enjoyment level doesn't drop. One of my favorites this year.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    I'm really into late night creepy/horror scoring at the moment....


    NP : THE MEPHISTO WALTZ - Jerry Goldsmith



    A very unsettling listen, intricate scoring and a violin led theme based on Saint-Saens DANCE MACABRE, creepy stuff indeed.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Alexandre Desplat - The Ghost Writer

    I love this score and I love Desplat. Probably the most intelligent composer in the industry today, when it comes to writing, orchestrations and approach.

    Still haven't watched the movie. Will probably buy on DVD.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    NP: Salt - James Newton Howard

    It goes from the bizarre and quite awful to the downright brilliant several times throughout. Cut it down to the big action pieces and it's a very exciting listen!
  6. Favourite cues?
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Alexandre Desplat - The Ghost Writer

    I love this score and I love Desplat. Probably the most intelligent composer in the industry today, when it comes to writing, orchestrations and approach.

    Still haven't watched the movie. Will probably buy on DVD.


    You'll love the film; one very mature and thought-provoking film.

    n.p. BRUCE BROUGHTON - young sherlock holmes

    Although i don't listen to it frequently, this couldn't be characterized as anything else than simply brilliant.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    JOHN DEBNEY - predators

    First listen and i can't trace anything else than constant loud banging...where are the themes? Where's the consistency in this one? Any musical aim whatsoever? Damn i must be getting old....Anyway, repeated listens will show; or not.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Anthony wrote
    NP: Salt - James Newton Howard

    It goes from the bizarre and quite awful to the downright brilliant several times throughout. Cut it down to the big action pieces and it's a very exciting listen!


    Are you serious??? I think it's awful the whole thing! shocked
  7. Christodoulides wrote
    JOHN DEBNEY - predators

    First listen and i can't trace anything else than constant loud banging...where are the themes?

    You know, not every score is based on the idea of featuring a leitmotif.


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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    I know what you're trying to say here but i never said anything about leitmotifs or the lack of them and didn't say it was drone or anything like that. It's just all random to me, i am trying to understand what he wanted to do with it musically.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    Honestly, I was only joking.

    I haven´t heard it yet, and if it´s a mix between the Silvestri original and Scorpion King, I can only imagine what it is suffering from, so there you go. beer
    Not that I find either of them bad, far from it, but a combination might be as tiring as Tyler´s AVP:R.
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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    NP: Music from flying scenes in animated movies
    (Lots of Ghibli, Rescuers Down Under, Dinosaur, Bee Movie, Up etc.)

    I'm making another playlist featuring "Flying Music", this time only with animated movies.
    (Because my original "Defying Gravity" flying music playlist including live-action, became a bit too long...)

    Trying to set them in a good order so that each track can flow naturally to the next track.

    Anyway, Hisaishi is always great at writing soaring music!
    Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Honestly, I was only joking.

    I haven´t heard it yet, and if it´s a mix between the Silvestri original and Scorpion King, I can only imagine what it is suffering from, so there you go. beer
    Not that I find either of them bad, far from it, but a combination might be as tiring as Tyler´s AVP:R.


    Well, both of them are very tiring to be honest. At least with AVP:R there are some very impressive highlight tracks with some memorable elements, 2-3 cues max. I am struggling to find something in Predators too. Anyway, as i said, repeated listens will reveal that to me; or not wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Christodoulides wrote
    JOHN DEBNEY - predators

    First listen and i can't trace anything else than constant loud banging...where are the themes? Where's the consistency in this one? Any musical aim whatsoever? Damn i must be getting old....Anyway, repeated listens will show; or not.


    Is it better than AVP:R
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    Don't know yet my friend; people here will tell you it is; i got the same headache and turned it off mid-way.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    I sorry Demetris... you can't hear any of the old Predator motifs? Seriously? confused Anyway, I think Debney did a great job of incorporating Silvestri's style and themes from first two Predator films, adding some unique new percussion and sounds to give the alien planet its own voice and adding an electric guitar under the rhythms to give it a more modern day kick. I think Debney's own voice also comes through and he crafts a few of his very own suspense and action cues that complement Silvestri's sound perfectly! It's a fine sequel score that honors the sound and motifs of the old while adding a few new elements to the mix.

    For me, this is miles ahead of Tyler's noise fest!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Maybe you can lead me to some specific cues? 'Cause it all sounds similar to Tyler's wall of loud noise to me as well. shame
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    I can't get through Tyler's score but Debney's was a breeze!
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Erik Woods wrote
    I sorry Demetris... you can't hear any of the old Predator motifs? Seriously? confused Anyway, I think Debney did a great job of incorporating Silvestri's style and themes from first two Predator films, adding some unique new percussion and sounds to give the alien planet its own voice and adding an electric guitar under the rhythms to give it a more modern day kick. I think Debney's own voice also comes through and he crafts a few of his very own suspense and action cues that complement Silvestri's sound perfectly! It's a fine sequel score that honors the sound and motifs of the old while adding a few new elements to the mix.

    For me, this is miles ahead of Tyler's noise fest!

    -Erik-



    Agree. ( and I enjoyed a couple of AVR tracks )
  8. Christodoulides wrote
    I know what you're trying to say here but i never said anything about leitmotifs or the lack of them and didn't say it was drone or anything like that. It's just all random to me, i am trying to understand what he wanted to do with it musically.


    I skimmed threw the new interview a few days ago with Daniel "You Are God and Have Changed the Face of the Scoring world" Sweiger (spelling?) with E-Notes. Debney said since the characters die off too quickly, he decided against giving them themes, opting instead for just an instrument, like a flute for one character.
    And that the score was something like 80/85% adaptation of Silvestri's score, even going through the complete written score for a week to see how Alan did it. And yet, unsurprisingly, everyone is having trouble spotting the adaptations. Debney was a WRONG choice for the film, period. But then again, such a film deserved it's choice of composer, just like the New "Rise of the Apes" (Plant of the Apes remake) will deserve Debney if they indeed hire him after these talks. I'm sure we'll have a hard time spotting any Goldsmith lifts in there, too.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010 edited
    NP: Battlestar Galactica: Season 3 - Bear McCreary

    Absolutely brilliant! One of the finest modern day scores I've heard in the past 10 year or so. I was at first dismissive of Richard Gibbs and Bear McCreary's approach to scoring this series but once Michael (franz conrad) introduced me to "Storming New Caprica" I was instantly converted. IMHO, it's one of the greatest action cues ever composed! And to hear it in context is absolutely thrilling!

    Gibbs and McCreary's sound for this series was spot on. A percussion led series of scores that I never thought in a million years would have worked in keep my attention. But for all of the banging and crashing of Taiko Drums and various other percussive elements there's a plethora of instantly recognizable themes, motifs and melodies that have you coming back for more. For instance, McCreary's adaptation of "All Along The Watchtower" is a stroke of genius. Again, if someone had told me that they were going to adapted this Bob Dylan tune into the Galactica universe I would have laughed and walked away. But now that I've heard the tune in context I couldn't imagine any OTHER themes for the "final five." Additionally, "Admiral and Commander" is about as perfect of a theme as you can find for Adama, his relationship with his son and the crew of the Galactica.

    Creative, complex, daring, smart, inventive, emotional... the entire series of scores are bloody fantastic!

    EDIT - I just want to keep talking about this score. Not since Lost have I heard a finer TV score that packs a punch in the emotional department. Of course there's the "Adama's Theme" which I've mentioned above but then there's heart-breaker's like the "Refugees Return" adagio or the string led "Violence and Variations" which is probably my favorite theme from the entire series. It's been a while since I've heard someone write for strings like this. I don't understand how any of these scores didn't receive Grammy Award nominations. We talk about Oscar and their blunders but not recognizing these series of brilliant TV scores is IMHO one of the biggest blunders of them all! It's disgusting that McCreary had to wait until this year to receive his first Grammy nomination for Human Target.

    If you are looking for TV scoring at its absolutely finest I don't think you will find a more engaging or satisfying score than Battlestar Galactica: Season 3.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd 2010
    Anthony wrote
    NP: Salt - James Newton Howard

    It goes from the bizarre and quite awful to the downright brilliant several times throughout. Cut it down to the big action pieces and it's a very exciting listen!

    'Chase Across DC' is a really good action cue. I don't remember anything else.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you