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  1. justin boggan wrote
    Southall wrote
    Transformers Prime - Brian Tyler

    An enjoyable Zimmerish power anthem serves as the main theme, but 20 minutes in and all I've heard is 20 minutes of repeats of the same theme over and over again. And there are still 55 minutes to go. A soul-destroying prospect. Still, it's a billion miles better than the junk in the Transformers movies. A bit like saying that eating a kilogram of fresh dog shit is better than eating a kilogram and a half of fresh dog shit, I know, but c'est la vie.


    Why force yourself to even a micro ounce of dog shit? Why not just find a Bernstein or Morricone you've never heard before?


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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2012 edited
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Well, if it's any comfort, I like it better now than when I first got the rare Japanese release back in the 90's.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Well, if it's any comfort, I like it better now than when I first got the rare Japanese release back in the 90's.


    I like it better now too! I know what you mean by the "autopilot" comment, not that I fully agree. I remember a friend once said that it sounded a bit like a talented person who was trying to sound like John Williams - it was technically all there, but didn't quite have the soul. I think that's a nice way of putting it.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Southall wrote
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Well, if it's any comfort, I like it better now than when I first got the rare Japanese release back in the 90's.


    I like it better now too! I know what you mean by the "autopilot" comment, not that I fully agree. I remember a friend once said that it sounded a bit like a talented person who was trying to sound like John Williams - it was technically all there, but didn't quite have the soul. I think that's a nice way of putting it.


    It's a meh score.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Not at all! It's autopilot Williams sadly and having recently seen the film I can see why there's no inspiration, crap film with an average score.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Southall wrote
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Well, if it's any comfort, I like it better now than when I first got the rare Japanese release back in the 90's.


    I like it better now too! I know what you mean by the "autopilot" comment, not that I fully agree. I remember a friend once said that it sounded a bit like a talented person who was trying to sound like John Williams - it was technically all there, but didn't quite have the soul. I think that's a nice way of putting it.


    A very kind way of putting it.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Not at all! It's autopilot Williams sadly and having recently seen the film I can see why there's no inspiration, crap film with an average score.


    You guys are hilarious! Autopilot. No inspiration. Jesus, the launch sequence alone is incredible and Williams found plenty of inspiration with his jaw dropping cue! The White Sands cue contains some of the loveliest music Williams wrote in the 80's. And the finale... wow! What. A. Finale. Clearly, based on the comments above, Spacecamp is one of Williams' most under appreciated scores.

    Anyway, I wrote the following 4 years ago... and I still stand by it.

    "Spacecamp is symphonic gold! Themes a plenty, gorgeous orchestrations that are reminiscent of his work in Temple of Doom and Amazing Stories: The Mission. Rousing conclusions to some of the cues in patented Williams style. And a phenomenal End Credit piece to sum it all up. Great score"


    Open your ears, ya knuckleheads! tongue

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Water for Elephants - James Newton Howard

    Magical score!

    cool
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    NP: SPACECAMP (John Williams)

    Cute, but not very engrossing. Seems a bit autopilot for Williams.


    Far from it! Spacecmp is an extraordinary score!

    -Erik-


    Not at all! It's autopilot Williams sadly and having recently seen the film I can see why there's no inspiration, crap film with an average score.


    You guys are hilarious! Autopilot. No inspiration. Jesus, the launch sequence alone is incredible and Williams found plenty of inspiration with his jaw dropping cue! The White Sands cue contains some of the loveliest music Williams wrote in the 80's. And the finale... wow! What. A. Finale. Clearly, based on the comments above, Spacecamp is one of Williams' most under appreciated scores.

    Anyway, I wrote the following 4 years ago... and I still stand by it.

    "Spacecamp is symphonic gold! Themes a plenty, gorgeous orchestrations that are reminiscent of his work in Temple of Doom and Amazing Stories: The Mission. Rousing conclusions to some of the cues in patented Williams style. And a phenomenal End Credit piece to sum it all up. Great score"


    Open your ears, ya knuckleheads! tongue

    -Erik-


    I. DON'T. LIKE IT. Simple! That doesn't mean I have to open my ears ( they're always open ) or that I'm a knucklehead..... oh wait a minute wink

    In all our music tastes sometimes we're wired the same and sometimes we're wired differently, how boring these boards would be if we all agreed with each other all of the time.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012 edited
    You might not like it... fine... but I don't agree with the use of the words autopilot and uninspired. The score is neither of those things.

    EDIT - I can't recall an entire score of Williams' that I would call autopilot. There have been selected cues and long stretches in a score where Williams wrote some pretty unremarkable stuff (I'm looking at you Attack of the Clones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) but to label an entire Williams score as uninspired or autopilot just doesn't compute.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    And yet Spacecamp oddly qualifies for that very epithet to mine ears as well.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  3. Catch Me If You Can - John Williams

    I'm surprised at how melancholy this whole score is (and the movie, for that matter), but I like it. I've never been a fan of saxophone solos, but they work here.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2012
    Talking about JG wants me make to play him...


    NP : FIRST KNIGHT - Jerry Goldsmith



    Excellent!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. franz_conrad wrote
    justin boggan wrote
    Southall wrote
    Transformers Prime - Brian Tyler

    An enjoyable Zimmerish power anthem serves as the main theme, but 20 minutes in and all I've heard is 20 minutes of repeats of the same theme over and over again. And there are still 55 minutes to go. A soul-destroying prospect. Still, it's a billion miles better than the junk in the Transformers movies. A bit like saying that eating a kilogram of fresh dog shit is better than eating a kilogram and a half of fresh dog shit, I know, but c'est la vie.


    Why force yourself to even a micro ounce of dog shit? Why not just find a Bernstein or Morricone you've never heard before?


    He's the first and last great film score reviewer on the net. He has a mission. Do not dissuade him. wink


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    • CommentAuthorDavid OC
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    Timmer wrote
    Talking about JG wants me make to play him...


    NP : FIRST KNIGHT - Jerry Goldsmith



    Excellent!



    A large percentage of the expanded releases of recent years have been superflous for me, but this one is a rare exception. So much quality music that wasn't on the original release - and not just filler and repetition of the main theme.




    Outland - Jerry Goldsmith

    I've always loved this one and not just because it's the closest relation in the Goldsmith canon to Alien, my favourite score of all time. 'Hot Water' is naturally the centrepiece and never gets old. It's surely one of the more brilliantly constructed action cues Goldsmith ever composed which is saying something.
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012 edited
    Blood Diamond - James Newton Howard

    I like the african influences, the children's choir, the action and the beautiful theme. A very enjoyable listen.

    cool
  5. NP: Un Prophete (Alexandre Desplat)

    Actually my favourite sort of Desplat score. The Audiard films cover a range of styles, but the 'serious 3' (Read my lips, The beat my heart skipped, and this one) all have superb, grave scores. The lonely brass solo voicing of the main theme in 'Un Prophete', the ethereal 'Les Reves', the dark reverberant piano of 'Le Pouvoir', the ostinato-driven 'Gunfight' (a hint of Journey to the Line's clock motif there). The dialogue that closes a number of tracks is fairly annoying, enough so that I edited it out roughly one day in a fit of geekish productivity.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    I'd give that a listen! smile (I really am on a Deh-Splat! roll at the moment.)
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    The Molly Maguires - Henry Mancini

    Oh. Irish stuff. I guess the clue was in the title.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    Southall wrote
    The Molly Maguires - Henry Mancini

    Oh. Irish stuff. I guess the clue was in the title.


    Phew. It's actually completely lovely (except the source music).
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    NP: THE PATRIOT (John Williams)

    This is kinda autopilot too, but far more rewarding to me than SPACECAMP.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    Dumbledore's Farewell - Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince - Nicholas Hooper

    I have one of those moments when I think I have heard this before, after a few minutes of thinking i have the answer: John Debney' Dragonfly.

    It's just an observation!!!! wink
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    Black Gold James Horner

    I can easily do without the wailing, which is easily overcome by unclicking particular tracks in iTunes, but the rest is pure black gold (as Thomas might say).
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    NP : THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR - Bill Conti



    A damn fine score!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    David OC wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Talking about JG wants me make to play him...


    NP : FIRST KNIGHT - Jerry Goldsmith



    Excellent!



    A large percentage of the expanded releases of recent years have been superflous for me, but this one is a rare exception. So much quality music that wasn't on the original release - and not just filler and repetition of the main theme.


    Indeed. A must have for any Goldsmith fan.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
  6. This morning...

    Patton (Jerry Goldsmith)

    The original FSM album, which has a little too much of the grim processional stuff from early in the score, and lacks the 'Winter March' concert version. It is however still a great listen, and one of the great biopic scores. And it does have that brief cue -- one of the Goldsmith's best pieces of scoring ever, IMO -- 'A Change of Weather', for Patton's strange prayer for glory on the battlefield.

    Next up: Probably a revisit to The Artist, I think.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2012
    franz_conrad wrote
    This morning...

    Patton (Jerry Goldsmith)

    The original FSM album, which has a little too much of the grim processional stuff from early in the score, and lacks the 'Winter March' concert version. It is however still a great listen, and one of the great biopic scores. And it does have that brief cue -- one of the Goldsmith's best pieces of scoring ever, IMO -- 'A Change of Weather', for Patton's strange prayer for glory on the battlefield.

    Next up: Probably a revisit to The Artist, I think.


    I've never actually seen PATTON, which is a shame because it's supposed to be one of Goldsmith's most psychologically sophisticated scores-in-context. I had the RSNO recording for a while, and it was fine -- but didn't quite grab me.
    I am extremely serious.
  7. It's quite a nice score, and an interesting film. Coppola meets Schaeffner with George C Scott as the third unpredictable part of the dramatic core. The score runs angular to the film in a way, enriching the sense we get of the mystique of the man but without being complete subjective about it. (A bit like Howard Shore's AVIATOR score, as far as biopics go.) That cue 'A change of weather' isn't on the RNSO recording. While the cue list on that recording should be representative, it doesn't quite bring the music to life. And I can say that with some objectivity because that was the version I heard first and it didn't really get my attention. I spent more time listening to the TORA TORA TORA suite at the end. Both scores have a lot more presence in the older rough close-miked album recordings. (Sorry, I know that's a cliche among scoring fans, but I got to experience them in the reverse order and still chose the original tracks. wink It's not always about what order you listen to them in.)

    NP: Band of Brothers (Kamen)

    Really, he should have credited 'Dido's Lament', which the album notes pass off as a Kamen original. The final 5 tracks of this album, with their blend of Kamen, Beethoven and Purcell make up a suite I listen to reasonably often.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am