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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    I'm just kinda curious as to what you were expecting musically from a bio-film about Lincoln that would be more interesting then what we got.


    As I said, I wasn't really expecting anything (well, that's a lie... this is precisely what I was expecting if I'm honest). But it isn't about whether I was expecting something different or not; it's about what I'm actually hearing. Lincoln is, at least for the moment, a score that doesn't move me or interest me above the fact that it's a new John Williams score. I was slightly bored of the Americana in Amistad (not including its wonderful Africana main theme), and I'm even more bored of it here.

    I'm not inherently against patriotic music, especially since Independence Day is perhaps my favourite score of all time - but the reverent 'play it safe' nature of this score just doesn't impress me (save for the obvious technical skill that goes into creating any score like this).
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
    Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
    If he scores Robopocalypse and we end up with War of The Worlds Part Duex, I'll certainly be happy with that. lick
  1. I was checking out samples from various known and unknown film scores at SAE. "Cloud Atlas"? Pass. The only one that got my attention, that I was unfamiliar with was:

    http://www.screenarchives.com/title_det … PRE-ORDER/
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012
    Steven wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    I'm just kinda curious as to what you were expecting musically from a bio-film about Lincoln that would be more interesting then what we got.


    As I said, I wasn't really expecting anything (well, that's a lie... this is precisely what I was expecting if I'm honest). But it isn't about whether I was expecting something different or not; it's about what I'm actually hearing. Lincoln is, at least for the moment, a score that doesn't move me or interest me above the fact that it's a new John Williams score. I was slightly bored of the Americana in Amistad (not including its wonderful Africana main theme), and I'm even more bored of it here.

    I'm not inherently against patriotic music, especially since Independence Day is perhaps my favourite score of all time - but the reverent 'play it safe' nature of this score just doesn't impress me (save for the obvious technical skill that goes into creating any score like this).


    I don't know, whilst i completely agree with you and many others who don't feel LINCOLN is anything special (heck i don't think it's special either), still that old-school film music americana with its grandness and at parts - naivety, made me feel sentiments that were long lost in the confused and noisy world of modern film music filled with electronics and other similar noisy trends; maybe it's part of why i love Horner. But of course Lincoln - as Erik said before, is far more better written and makes much more sense musically than when Horner is on recycle mode wink
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2012 edited
    I've ordered LINCOLN from Amazon and it will be arriving soon, hopefully. I couldn't help myself, however, and sneak-listened to it at Spotify. I certainly LOVED what I heard (not so much the source cue-like period music, but the softspoken Americana), but a more legitimate opinion will be formed once I've received the CD and listened to it.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012 edited
    I look forward to hearing Lincoln for myself.


    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.
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  2. Pushed to choose between this and Legends of the Fall I pick Legends quite easily, the basic reason though being the fact that except the Celtic elements (for Horner's own good I'll refrain from calling them Scotish and also to save myself from Alan's wrath biggrin wink ), this is basically the same sound and Legends were a year earlier smile
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Timmer wrote
    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.


    Brilliant film which contains, IMO, Horner's best score!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    Lincoln John Williams

    It may work in the film just fine, and I'm sure it's exactly what Spielberg was after - but my god it's boring. I do hope I change my mind about this one like I did with Tintin. But that at least had the virtue of a lot more going on in terms of energy. With War Horse, I was instantly enamored. But this... I dunno, I just don't see me wanting to return to this one very often, if at all (unless I'm on a serious Williams high).

    If ever the description 'safe option' applied, it's here. Still, to every action (Skyfall) there is always an equal and opposite reaction (Lincoln).


    I can't agree with you that it is boring. Far from it. It's a score that needs and begs for your undivided attention. The intricacies of the orchestration, variations on themes, counterpoint, the recording, etc. It's a master at work and again he does a brilliant job! Stunning, stunning music.

    And of course Tintin is going to be more varied. It's a friggin' action adventure film for crying out loud. You can't go into Lincoln expecting a 7 music action set piece.

    -Erik-


    Minus the choral piece and the march, it's a really enjoyable fore/background listening experience. Much more involving than his SPR score, and less "sad" per se.
  3. Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.


    Brilliant film which contains, IMO, Horner's best score!

    -Erik-

    Really? That one?
  4. Steven wrote
    Lincoln John Williams

    It may work in the film just fine, and I'm sure it's exactly what Spielberg was after - but my god it's boring. I do hope I change my mind about this one like I did with Tintin. But that at least had the virtue of a lot more going on in terms of energy. With War Horse, I was instantly enamored. But this... I dunno, I just don't see me wanting to return to this one very often, if at all (unless I'm on a serious Williams high).

    If ever the description 'safe option' applied, it's here. Still, to every action (Skyfall) there is always an equal and opposite reaction (Lincoln).

    Given the way the film has been described from the trailer, it sounds like Williams pretty much matched the film perfectly.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Exactly so i am too waiting for the film first before passing final judgement.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Kevin Scarlet wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.


    Brilliant film which contains, IMO, Horner's best score!

    -Erik-

    Really? That one?


    Yes that one. A score that I consider to be one of the top 10 scores ever written!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    I think i am with Kevin on this one wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012 edited
    And I don't really care. wink tongue

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Those synth female moanings will be proud for you wink tongue
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    GEORGE FENTON - planet earth

    A magnificently epic score! Give this man more projects...
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012 edited
    NP: Soldier - Joel McNeely

    Excellent stuff here. MOAR PLEASE!!!! Does this need an expanded version? If so, I WANT!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    ^ Superb score! You can find some extra tracks HERE!

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    ^ Superb score! You can find some extra tracks HERE!

    -Erik-


    Ooh, do you know the chronological arrangement for this "expanded" version?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Unfortunately, I don't. Sorry!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Unfortunately, I don't. Sorry!

    -Erik-


    YOU SUCK! YOU RUINED MY DAY!

    Nah, appreciate the link. The VS release is criminally short.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    biggrin
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    NP : KING KONG - John Barry



    Yup! Still playing this awesome work.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    Erik Woods wrote
    Kevin Scarlet wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.


    Brilliant film which contains, IMO, Horner's best score!

    -Erik-

    Really? That one?


    Yes that one. A score that I consider to be one of the top 10 scores ever written!

    -Erik-


    It's in my top 10 Horner scores.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. I'm partial to A Beautiful Mind.
  6. Timmer wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Kevin Scarlet wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : BRAVEHEART - James McHorner



    dafty but enjoyable film gets sublime score.


    Brilliant film which contains, IMO, Horner's best score!

    -Erik-

    Really? That one?


    Yes that one. A score that I consider to be one of the top 10 scores ever written!

    -Erik-


    It's in my top 10 Horner scores.

    It's in my top 10 films-about-William-Wallace scores.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2012
    biggrin



    p.s. Are there ten films about William Wallace?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  7. Mine probably too.

    How many people would put Apollo 13 in their top 10?
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