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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    Atham wrote
    I was skipping through tracks on an Erich Kunzel CD while driving in the car with my 10 year old niece a couple of weeks back when the opening ten seconds of The Black Hole began playing, I skipped it forward as I thought my niece would be unfamiliar with it (unlike say Star Wars, Superman, Star Trek: TMP etc) when she suddenly said "that last track, take it back! That was The Black Hole!". My jaw dropped! I've never played The Black Hole (film or score) to her before so I asked how the heck she knew what it was, considering I only let the opening ten seconds play which was the mysterioso strings before the main motif comes in. She told me she watched the film at a holiday house last Christmas. I was blown away by her musical memory!
    When we got home I played her the complete score. She likes it. But now she has discovered and adores Craig Safan's The Last Starfighter!
    She has just started learning violin so I hope she continues in this as she certainly has an amazing musical ear!



    How very very cool! cool beer <--to your niece, non-alcoholic of course wink


    Lol Cheers! (with a diet soda) beer

    Yeah, she's trying to teach herself Goldsmith's Star Trek theme on violin just now. Sounds um, well, cute ( to put it diplomatically) but she's kinda getting the Imperial March sounding recognisable.
    I just hope she doesn't throw away her love for movie music when she becomes a teen. I noticed a One Direction poster on her wall the other day! rolleyes
    Guess she's just all round musical.
    And she's my latest profile picture for now till I find a good shark pic.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Thor wrote
    NP: STOKER (Clint Mansell)

    Interesting things going on here. Ambient, with occasional beats, but less gritty and more "open" and delicate. I like it.


    I am a huge Mansell fan and this score is draft, badly recorded (orchestral instruments sounding like samples) and lacks thematic coherence. Huge disappointment.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  1. Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome - Bear McCreary

    Beautiful so far but I just started listening.

    Edit:
    Well, it's not on the level of Season 4 but it's still a good listening experience. Varied and intensive.

    As no European release of the DVD seems to be forthcoming I just ordered it on amazon.com. I like what I saw online.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    NP: To The Wonder - Hanan Townshend

    First listen... beautiful so far.

    EDIT: Wow! Did this one ever loose me when it turned into atmospheric droning. Almost sounds like one long sustained note for half and hour. The track "Peril" for instance is the worst offender. And it's 9 minute long. sleep

    DOUBLE EDIT: Back to some more swirling woodwinds and strings in the track "Awareness / The Train" which is mixed with actual train sound effects. Interesting that the train sound effects are rather "musical" and are mixed with the organic music beautifully. Neat!

    Overall, the score is very dream like but Townshend isn't really presenting anything particularly new with his music (minus "The Train" cue and beautiful theme for Marina) but I guess it fits with the Malick musical blueprint. This will probably rank near the bottom of scores composed for Malick films. Can't see myself returning to this one the way I do with Days of Heaven, The Thin Red Line, The New World and the superb The Tree of Life.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  2. James Horner - The New World

    I still haven't seen the movie and while I am very, very negative about the way Horner has discussed this project in the past, I love the music itself, which just joined my film music collection today. Except To the Wonder (which still hasn't opened in Poland), that means I own every score for a Terrence Malick, starting with Days of Heaven and ending with The Tree of Life. Malick's scores have this thing that on album they belong to the personal category for me.

    This is a very interesting project. Whatever happened between Malick and Horner (I wonder and I would ask him if I could, if the problem was the constant re-editing or the fact that Malick wanted something else than pure emotion, which Horner always was about), the collaboration provided a largely orchestral score that is as atmospheric as Horner can get. Could I say that it's his most impressionistic work?

    I've heard that Horner got almost fired from the project, because Malick hired him on the basis of his piano work on A Beautiful Mind. To stay on the job, I've heard (a second-hand account, I wasn't on the festival where it was discussed), he had to improvise on the piano for a few hours and record it.

    Still, the music is beautiful, whatever happened between him and the director.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    sdtom wrote
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time


    FACT!
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  3. Erik Woods wrote
    sdtom wrote
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time


    FACT!


    I liked the dilirium scorens reply better. wink
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  4. sdtom wrote
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time


    What recording are you listening to? I have in my collection the Marco Polo (Stromberg) one and the Varese (Koijan). I love both.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Captain Future wrote
    sdtom wrote
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time


    What recording are you listening to? I have in my collection the Marco Polo (Stromberg) one and the Varese (Koijan). I love both.


    Get the Gerhardt suite as well!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  5. Erik Woods wrote
    Captain Future wrote
    sdtom wrote
    Robin Hood/Korngold one of the best scores of all time


    What recording are you listening to? I have in my collection the Marco Polo (Stromberg) one and the Varese (Koijan). I love both.


    Get the Gerhardt suite as well!

    -Erik-


    I have in my possession the ENTIRE Gerhardt series plus his Star Wars recordings plus the recordings he did for Reader's Digest (The Prince and the Pauper, Varese).
    I would raise his stature in pure gold!
    Here's to Charles "King of Conductors" Gerhardt!

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  6. Erik Woods wrote
    The track "Peril" for instance is the worst offender. And it's 9 minute long. sleep


    "Peril" is, by quite a fair margin, the most painful track I've had the misfortune to hear so far this year. My reaction to it was less sleep and more crazy . That sort of thing exemplifies all of the things I frequently dislike about Malick's scores, the pretentious artsy minimalism that turned me off of large portions of The Tree of Life (granted, that score had the decency never to get worse than "dull"). Admittedly, my apparent inability to "get" the music is probably my fault, not Malick's or his composers' - but that's just the way it often comes across to me. slant
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    This, very loud! Fucking incredible! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIk-Kxw_7Kc omg
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    and then this, film music doesn't get any better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzC4sOg-VN0
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  7. Demetris wrote
    This, very loud! Fucking incredible! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIk-Kxw_7Kc omg


    The moment at 4:52 never fails to give me goosebumps. The slowdown and then quite possibly the most monumental brass blast in a score not exactly short of monumental brass blasts. Still not a huge fan of the score as a whole but the two cues they played here are fantastic! cool
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    Those Inception cues work splendidly as film music cues, meaning with the picture. I can't say I get much interest or enjoyment out of them on their own. Even the string players looked bored play their parts.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    I've always liked the extended concert version of "Throne Room and Finale" from Star Wars. I love the addition of the gorgeous oboe solo of the Force theme, which seques into the cue heard as 3PO and R2's escape pod fall towards Tatooine. The piece then picks back up with more of the Throne Room music and concludes with the great end title music. Great arrangement!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  8. Erik Woods wrote
    Those Inception cues work splendidly as film music cues, meaning with the picture. I can't say I get much interest or enjoyment out of them on their own. Even the string players looked bored play their parts.


    I can see why an orchestral player might not be crazily invigorated by playing Zimmer's music...on a purely technical level it's not challenging at all. But compositional density and musical effectiveness are two wildly different things, and IMO those two cues from Inception tick the latter box easily. I'd much rather listen to them than the vast majority of To the Wonder, that's for sure...
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    The Inception music most definitely serves a purpose and live that suite must have blown the audience away sonically but there's something about its composition that bores me to tears.

    And it is super ass annoying how this sort of sound is infiltrating trailer music (BLARGH!) and more modern scores today. And the problem is they aren't really expanding on the sound. It sounds like copy and pasting to me. "Remember how awesome Inception sounded, well I can do that, too... in Garageband."

    I read a Tweet the other day from a composer answering a question about how he composes a theme. He answered it by saying "In terms of finding a good motif, I usually just start with an ostinato pattern." crazy It's more about layering and programming now then developing something internally. Loops, samples, pre-existing sounds instead of creating something from within out of nothing.

    soapbox

    Sorry...

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    I've always liked the extended concert version of "Throne Room and Finale" from Star Wars. I love the addition of the gorgeous oboe solo of the Force theme, which seques into the cue heard as 3PO and R2's escape pod fall towards Tatooine. The piece then picks back up with more of the Throne Room music and concludes with the great end title music. Great arrangement!

    -Erik-


    This was one of the first pieces that really catalyzed my love for film scores as a child. Its still one of my favorite symphonic works of all time, as good or better than things like Holst's Jupiter.

    NP: Gears of War Judgement
    WTF? Each Gears of War score has gotten progressively worse since Jablonsky took over. This one is grim and grungy and has little redeeming value so far.
    I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    The track "Peril" for instance is the worst offender. And it's 9 minute long. sleep


    "Peril" is, by quite a fair margin, the most painful track I've had the misfortune to hear so far this year. My reaction to it was less sleep and more crazy . That sort of thing exemplifies all of the things I frequently dislike about Malick's scores, the pretentious artsy minimalism that turned me off of large portions of The Tree of Life (granted, that score had the decency never to get worse than "dull"). Admittedly, my apparent inability to "get" the music is probably my fault, not Malick's or his composers' - but that's just the way it often comes across to me. slant


    Minimalism is not the word I would use for TREE OF LIFE. Quite the contrary, it's rather maximalistic at times.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Demetris wrote
    This, very loud! Fucking incredible! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIk-Kxw_7Kc omg


    Oh, you should really have seen Zimmer play this live in Ghent two years ago, D. You would have loved every second of it.
    I am extremely serious.
  9. Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Those Inception cues work splendidly as film music cues, meaning with the picture. I can't say I get much interest or enjoyment out of them on their own. Even the string players looked bored play their parts.


    I can see why an orchestral player might not be crazily invigorated by playing Zimmer's music...on a purely technical level it's not challenging at all. But compositional density and musical effectiveness are two wildly different things, and IMO those two cues from Inception tick the latter box easily. I'd much rather listen to them than the vast majority of To the Wonder, that's for sure...


    Actually, session players, love playing his music. As his principal bassist said to my friend, who was taking pictures on the session:

    "It's always interesting with Hans". She was actually complaining between sessions that she would have nothing to play on the second one and was overjoyed that there indeed was some stuff for her section.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Actually, session players, love playing his music. As his principal bassist said to my friend, who was taking pictures on the session:

    "It's always interesting with Hans". She was actually complaining between sessions that she would have nothing to play on the second one and was overjoyed that there indeed was some stuff for her section.


    Well, was she actually enjoying it because it was good music or because she finally had something to play. wink

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  10. Thor wrote
    Minimalism is not the word I would use for TREE OF LIFE. Quite the contrary, it's rather maximalistic at times.


    I suppose you're right, strictly speaking. But there's definite Philip Glass influences ("Circles"), and that opening "Childhood" track is certainly very sparse and, ahem, minimal. It's the latter type of thing that I really don't like ("Temptation" is another example).

    Scribe wrote
    NP: Gears of War Judgement
    WTF? Each Gears of War score has gotten progressively worse since Jablonsky took over. This one is grim and grungy and has little redeeming value so far.


    Kill it! Stop listening to it immediately and kill it with fire!! Trust me on this one. vomit
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2013
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Thor wrote
    Minimalism is not the word I would use for TREE OF LIFE. Quite the contrary, it's rather maximalistic at times.


    I suppose you're right, strictly speaking. But there's definite Philip Glass influences ("Circles"), and that opening "Childhood" track is certainly very sparse and, ahem, minimal. It's the latter type of thing that I really don't like ("Temptation" is another example).


    Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you (blame it on the beer -- I've had a few right now). I thought you were talking about the film, not the score. However, the score (including the classical pieces) are all over the place, really. Some have minimalist tendencies, other are over-the-top melodramatic.
    I am extremely serious.
  11. Erik Woods wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Actually, session players, love playing his music. As his principal bassist said to my friend, who was taking pictures on the session:

    "It's always interesting with Hans". She was actually complaining between sessions that she would have nothing to play on the second one and was overjoyed that there indeed was some stuff for her section.


    Well, was she actually enjoying it because it was good music or because she finally had something to play. wink

    -Erik-


    Well, the played piece (the Shadows suite) was very demanding for the players (very fast-paced triplets) and the recording featured no violas or violins. They were definitely having a lot of fun with it.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 12th 2013 edited
    NP: CutThroat Island - John Debney

    Good Golly Miss Molly! This is absolute bliss!

    punk

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  12. That's such a great score.

    I just finished playing "Theme from Powder" and "Everywhere" from Goldsmith's POWDER.

    Wow. How can you describe that kind of musical beauty and power with words? I can't. I will say that I get chills nearly every time I listen to these tracks. They're two of my favorite compositions by Goldsmith.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 12th 2013
    yeah
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