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    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2013
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    By the way, I think I've come up with a preliminary one-disk playlist for it. Yeah, it's only after one listen, so I doubt it's perfect, but give it a shot and let me know what you think; I don't think I've missed any themes. This is based on the cue times from the Special Edition, mind you, so it might not be useful (or else it'll just be a bit shorter, which apparently is a good thing these days...I don't know) to those with the Standard Edition.

    1. Beyond the Forest (5:28) - put at the beginning as per Scribe's idea as it's a theme suite
    2. Wilderland (4:56)
    3. Flies and Spiders (9:36)
    4. Feast of Starlight (2:48)
    5. Barrels Out of Bond (1:50)
    6. The Forest River (5:11)
    7. Thrice Welcome (3:30)
    8. Girion, Lord of Dale (4:16)
    9. A Spell of Concealment (3:23)
    10. On the Doorstep (7:44)
    11. Inside Information (3:48)
    12. A Liar and a Thief (3:41)
    13. The Hunters (9:52)
    14. My Armor is Iron (5:10)

    Total Time: 1:11:07


    This is great, makes the score listenable to me. In fact, very listenable. Amazing what trimming the fat can do.
  1. Josh B wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    By the way, I think I've come up with a preliminary one-disk playlist for it. Yeah, it's only after one listen, so I doubt it's perfect, but give it a shot and let me know what you think; I don't think I've missed any themes. This is based on the cue times from the Special Edition, mind you, so it might not be useful (or else it'll just be a bit shorter, which apparently is a good thing these days...I don't know) to those with the Standard Edition.

    1. Beyond the Forest (5:28) - put at the beginning as per Scribe's idea as it's a theme suite
    2. Wilderland (4:56)
    3. Flies and Spiders (9:36)
    4. Feast of Starlight (2:48)
    5. Barrels Out of Bond (1:50)
    6. The Forest River (5:11)
    7. Thrice Welcome (3:30)
    8. Girion, Lord of Dale (4:16)
    9. A Spell of Concealment (3:23)
    10. On the Doorstep (7:44)
    11. Inside Information (3:48)
    12. A Liar and a Thief (3:41)
    13. The Hunters (9:52)
    14. My Armor is Iron (5:10)

    Total Time: 1:11:07


    This is great, makes the score listenable to me. In fact, very listenable. Amazing what trimming the fat can do.

    Glad to be of service! smile
  2. Thanks for the playlist. Will give it a try.
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    NP: Le Manoir Magique - Ramin Djawadi

    This is a lovely little score for an animated film (The House of Magic) out on Christmas Day (in France and Belgium anyway). No pounding bass lines or crashing percussion, just a nicely orchestrated tender little score.

    People should check it out. (It seems to be only available as a digital download at the moment.)
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    I'm giving Edmund's The Desolation of Smaug playlist a go right now and it's a major improvement... a lot like my improved An Unexpected Journey playlist I made last year. So much of the sleep had been filtered out leaving the punk in. BTW, I added in the "Smaug" cue as the second track to introduce to me Smaug's material as early as possible.

    I've always preferred the album presentations of the Lord of the Rings scores as well, with the exception of The Return of the King, which by adding some of the cues from the complete recordings to the album presentation makes that album an incredible listen.

    And therein lies the weakness of these scores. A lot of GREAT music mixed in with a lot of not so great music. There's so much musical wallpaper in the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit scores that I'm wondering if Howard SHore and Peter Jackson ever thought to not have almost each and every scene wallpapered to death with music? That's what does in the Williams Star Wars prequel scores as well. As good as the good stuff is there so much filler... especially during dialogue scenes that's is so uninteresting and unnecessary.

    Anyway, just a few thoughts on the matter while I try my best to concentrate and gather up all those themes everyone seems to hear in the Smaug score. tongue Actually, I really like the "Beyond the Forest" cue, which easily should have been opening track of the commercial album.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  3. I find a lot of echoes of Shore's other, earlier scores in The Desolation of Smaug. Silence of the Lambs came through a lot for me in that final track. And it was funny to feel that this second Hobbit score was returning to his Looking For Richard score; the one that many cite as a possible precursor to his LOTR scores.

    There and back again indeed!
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  4. Erik Woods wrote
    ...I'm wondering if Howard SHore and Peter Jackson ever thought to not have almost each and every scene wallpapered to death with music? That's what does in the Williams Star Wars prequel scores as well. As good as the good stuff is there so much filler... especially during dialogue scenes that's is so uninteresting and unnecessary...

    I wonder just how much of the films have no music at all? Single digit percentages?
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  5. Erik Woods wrote
    ... a lot like my improved An Unfinished Journey playlist I made last year.

    Erik, do you have that playlist to hand?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    ... a lot like my improved An Unexpected Journey playlist I made last year.

    Erik, do you have that playlist to hand?


    THE HOBBIT: SPECIAL 'YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL TO EDIT DOWN A SOUNDTRACK FOR LISTENING PLEASURE' EDITION

    1. My Dear Frodo (08:03)
    2. Misty Mountains (01:42)
    3. The Adventure Begins (02:04)
    4. A Very Respectable Hobbit * (01:20)
    5. The Dwarf Lords * (02:01)
    6. The World Is Ahead (02:19)
    7. An Ancient Enemy (04:56)
    8. Radagast The Brown (Extended Version) ** (06:37)
    9. Erebor * (01:19)
    10. Roast Mutton (Extended Version) ** (04:56)
    11. Warg-Scouts (03:02)
    12. The Hidden Valley (03:49)
    13. The Defiler (01:14)
    14. Over Hill (03:42)
    15. The Edge Of The Wild * (03:54)
    16. A Thunder Battle (03:54)
    17. Out Of The Frying-Pan (05:55)
    18. A Good Omen (05:45)
    19. Song Of The Lonely Mountain (Extended Version) ** (06:00)
    performed by Neil Finn
    20. Dreaming Of Bag End (01:56)

    1 hour 14 minutes 23 seconds

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    THE HOBBIT: SPECIAL 'YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A PROFESSIONAL TO EDIT DOWN A SOUNDTRACK FOR LISTENING PLEASURE' EDITION

    Erik's quote repeated for TRUTH!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    Getting to the end of Edmund's Smaug playlist. Really SOLID listening experience. I like that it's very Smaug and Tauriel’s Theme heavy. A much more fluid and coherent sounding album. And the Smaug material is actually quite striking, with some very unique orchestrations... the likes we have never heard before in the Middle Earth series of films.

    The big problem that I seem to still have is all the new themes (minus Smaug and Tauriel’s Theme) just blend into one another. I'm still having a real difficult time trying to decipher who's new theme is who's. While I guess some would say that's the genius of Shore's score, I actually prefer the themes to be much more distinctive. That's just a personal preference. Maybe a viewing of the film with help flesh out those themes... but that's not going to happen for quite sometime unfortunately.

    Anyway, Smaug naysayers might want to give Edmund's playlist a spin.

    QUESTION: For those that have seen the film - Bilbo and Gandalf ARE in the movie, right? Wouldn't know it from listening to the score.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    Erik Woods wrote
    QUESTION: For those that have seen the film - Bilbo and Gandalf ARE in the movie, right? Wouldn't know it from listening to the score.
    -Erik-


    After Shore went to the trouble of writing an utterly brilliant and gorgeous theme for Bilbo that somehow is simultaneously a perfect prototype of the Shire theme while also being a knockout punch of little-person-saving-the-day emotion in its own right....

    ...then had said amazing theme almost completely removed from the film, even in the most poignant scenes that he obviously specifically wrote it for, because the Glorious Editors Who Know Everything About Filmgoers deemed that morono-audiences everywhere would not tell their friends about the movie unless they heard That Exact Hobbit Music again...

    ...why on earth would Shore have bothered to keep adding it to the rest of the trilogy?
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      CommentAuthorJim Ware
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013 edited
    Erik Woods wrote
    QUESTION: For those that have seen the film - Bilbo and Gandalf ARE in the movie, right? Wouldn't know it from listening to the score.


    Bilbo's 'fussy' theme is in there. Gandalf's material is lurking in a few places but is not immediately obvious.

    There's a big heroic statement of Gandalf's primary theme in the film that is not on the album.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Remember Me Olivier Deriviere

    Still the best score I've heard this year. I can't wait for his next score! (Although I fear I'm setting myself up for disappointment considering how much I love this score.)
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    It's great that you're all making personal playlists of SMAUG. Let me know if any of you manage to boil it down to about 50 minutes and I'll give it a try. I probably won't like it even then, but I'm willing to give it a shot.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    ...and snap to it.
    We don't have all day.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    For anyone who is interested, here is my playlist for Remember Me:

    1. Nilin the Memory Hunter
    2. Rise to the Light
    3. Still Human
    4. Fragments
    5. Neo Paris
    6. The Enforcers
    7. Chase Through Montmartre
    8. Memory Reconstruction
    9. The Fight
    10. Our Parents
    11. Memorize
    12. The Ego Room
    13. Remember Your
    14. The Zorn
    15. Hope
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    You know, that's actually quite good!
    You've put some thought into that!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    One of my best I think.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    Scribe wrote
    Did we expect something as lyrical as the Imperial March for a CG dragon, in the 21st century where grimdark monochrome is the be-all and end-all of coolness?


    Why not?

    -Erik-


    If we got them for puppets and actors in costumes, then why not for cgi? we are moving forward.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Puppets. I miss puppets... sad
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Demetris wrote
    If we got them for puppets and actors in costumes, then why not for cgi? we are moving forward.


    Puppets and actors in costumes aren't "cool" and thus don't have their creative decisions influenced by the studio's need to make 1 billion dollars on ticket sales...
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Thor wrote
    It's great that you're all making personal playlists of SMAUG. Let me know if any of you manage to boil it down to about 50 minutes and I'll give it a try. I probably won't like it even then, but I'm willing to give it a shot.


    1. The Forest River
    2. Smaug
    3. Beyond the Forest

    That'll get you sorted to be able to participate in the current conversations about the score.
  6. The Red Pony (1949) - Aaron Copland
    Suite conduced by Leonard Slatkin on RCA

    There was some talk about this score lately, so I gave it a click.

    Pure Americana. Very nice, yet I don't feel I need more than the suite.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    BobdH wrote
    Thor wrote
    It's great that you're all making personal playlists of SMAUG. Let me know if any of you manage to boil it down to about 50 minutes and I'll give it a try. I probably won't like it even then, but I'm willing to give it a shot.


    1. The Forest River
    2. Smaug
    3. Beyond the Forest

    That'll get you sorted to be able to participate in the current conversations about the score.


    Ha, ha...good one.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Yes, those tracks contain the only music worth listening to in the entire 3 hour film. It is known.

    tongue
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  7. Karl-May-Melodien - Martin Böttcher

    Vintage German 60s western music. Legendary here, unknown anywhere else. smile
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Today I learned the Germans made westerns.
  8. O, yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHiEKkkDMLQ

    They hired Lex Barker to add some Hollywood flair. The films were based on stories by pulp fiction writer Karl May (about 1900).

    They went to Yugoslavia for filming and painted Yugos would mime the Inidans. Well the early films are quite entertaining but the series quickly deterioated.
    These films were a huge domestic succes back then and they still are favourites hereabouts.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2013
    Steven wrote
    Today I learned the Germans made westerns.


    Today Steven learned before I did the Germans made westerns.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt