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  1. soapbox
    That f****** plagiat doesn't hold a pale candel to 2010!!

    wink
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014
    Well I agree Captain. Excellent film and a superb score.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    soapbox
    That f****** plagiat doesn't hold a pale candel to 2010!!

    wink


    He, he...I don't consider it a plagiat. It's really just some of the basic core issues (the journey to Europa, where something mysterious happens). I prefer the 2012 film for its more serious, scientific approach -- and a more prevalent sense of unease -- but I like 2010 too. I think Hyam's film suffers a bit from being a sequel to such a seminal classic, and opting for a rather conventional style over Kubrick's more artsy approach.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014
    I've not seen Europa Report yet.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014
    You should see it. One of the best films of last year, IMO.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014
    I want to see it. It looks like my kind of film.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Come over. I've got the DVD right here. It's really not a bad film btw.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2014 edited
    OK, Timmer posted his 9th, so I'm permitted to continue according to unwritten online etiquette.

    My 9th, though, is something from way before anything online!

    #9: THE BAD SEED (1956) by Alex North, on RCA Victor monaural vinyl LP.

    I started to collect soundtrack LPs in earnest around 1985 (meaning not only new releases but vintage records issued before I was born). At age 18 in '85, I was going into used book stores and 2nd-hand record rooms and getting used copies of Sol Kaplan's THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD and George Duning's PICNIC, and so forth. When labels such as Varese Sarabande ceased vinyl production by the summer of '89, I still did not own any CD player or CD albums. I continued to mine the vast back-catalogues of old soundtracks on vinyl.
    1990 through 1992 was the period when I started to accumulate rare vinyl LPs (via mail order vendors) whilst ignoring the CD medium until I finally got a CD player in '93. While I bought some new releases on cassette tapes (like MEDICINE MAN and BASIC INSTINCT), my primary focus was on getting those 'holy grails' from the past, like Herrmann's VERTIGO on Mercury LP or Malcolm Arnold rarities on London records, or explore those composers who had one or a couple titles (Mischa Spoliansky's SAINT JOAN, Dusan Radic's GENGHIS KHAN, etc.).

    One of the joys of my collecting journey was discovering the music of Alex North, and, in particular, the acquisition of THE BAD SEED!

    In my opinion, RCA's decision to release THE BAD SEED was a 'first'. There were 12" LPs before, of course (such as THE ROBE & THE EGYPTIAN), but North's score for THE BAD SEED was really the first time that unusual and/or dissonant music was considered marketable enough to warrant a commercial album. Finally, it was recognized that there is an audience (a niche audience) for moody music, and THE BAD SEED had decidedly ironic, morbid & mournful music, which is why this North opus is so beloved by me.

    A suite from this title was re-recorded for a CD compilation album, but this does not satisfy me - I cherish the original soundtrack!
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2014
    I've read about the curse of the 9th (that is, composers who passed away after completing their 9th symphonies before issuing forth any 10th symphony), but I hope this doesn't extend to forum posters depositing their 9th-place favorites! smile

    Is Timmer still with us?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2014
    biggrin


    I've been out of touch for a bit.
    I shall post my third to ninth favourites soon.
    My list'll be chocfull of unknown South-easteasian film scores from the turn of the last century and electronic pioneer scores from 1950s Czechoslovakia.

    Or not.
    As the case may be.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2014 edited
    Cobweb wrote
    I've read about the curse of the 9th (that is, composers who passed away after completing their 9th symphonies before issuing forth any 10th symphony), but I hope this doesn't extend to forum posters depositing their 9th-place favorites! smile

    Is Timmer still with us?


    applause


    # 117 coming by Monday at latest.

    Martijn, I look forward to your choices but can you please reassure me that among your choices there will still be your beloved Gamalan scores from 1930's Indonesian cinema?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  3. Indonesia had cinema in the 30s? While they were still a Dutch colony? That would surprise me very much... biggrin
  4. # 10 coming by Monday at latest.



    O boy, o boy, o boy! spin

    (Of course he didn't say by which Monday, did he? uhm )
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2014
    ooookay....


    # 10 LITTLE BUDDHA - RYUICHI SAKAMOTO


    Unlike my other choices I've only bought this score the once. I adore this score, for me it is the perfect blend of orchestral and ethnic vocals and instruments ( though to be fair I should point out I'm not keen on the Eastern Wailing Women style as heard most famously in Gladiator ) make it a truly intoxicating mix.

    Also there is the fact of how much this score means to me personally in my experiences of Nepal, for me the score conjures the sights and sounds, the smells, the people, the whole spirituality of the country, a country for me that was pure magic. The film was filmed in Nepal and Bhutan...... I have no intention of seeing it.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2014
    Captain Future wrote

    (Of course he didn't say by which Monday, did he? uhm )


    Nope! biggrin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Little Buddha: So far I have never listened to that score. It seems like that will have to change.
    ________________________________

    There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization ...

    The David O Selznick fanfare blends into the Main Theme like the 20th Century Fox Fanfare blends into the STAR WARS theme, the above text rolls and then the title in big capital letters roll from the right to the left hand side. On of the greatest opening sequences, on par with STAR WARS and SUPERMAN. Accompanied by one of the most magical themes in film music history ...

    My 10th entry is

    Gone With The Wind (1939) by Max Steiner

    Clark Gable; Vivian Leigh; Leslie Howard; Olivia de Havilland; Hattie McDaniel …

    Lord in Heaven, what a film! And what a score!

    Coming from the late decadent Imperial Austria, Max Steiner was just the man to depict the Old South. His merging of original themes with contemporary music forms one of the most compelling scores ever composed. Steiner worked like a madman on this score and was even so aided by a legion of orchestrators and co-composers, to flesh things out.
    My favourite incarnation of this score is the one compiled by Charles Gerhardt, who consulted with Steiner on what pieces to use. As a listening experience – with regard to the content and with regard to audio fidelity – this is the album to go for. As far as the original recording is concerned, I long had a CD by Polydor featuring an old LP master. That CD has long since been exchanged for the Rhino single CD edition.

    A very nice arrangement, containing the O'Selznick fanfare, the main theme and the Yankee Doodle, done by John Mauceri, may be found on the album “Hollywood Dreams”.

    I need t listen to this score again. Well, I guess: Tomorrow is another day!

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  6. Your last sentence sounds like the weirdest James Bond movie ever!
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  7. biggrin

    Still, it's a quote from the novel / the film.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Little Buddha: So far I have never listened to that score. It seems like that will have to change.


    I just checked and it's on Spotify if you're interested.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. PawelStroinski wrote
    Your last sentence sounds like the weirdest James Bond movie ever!

    Ian Fleming's I'll Always Go Hungry Again?
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2014 edited
    Finally - the 10th position arrives. Timmer and a few of us are now 20% finished. smile

    I'm putting some Glass in my 10th. No ... not Philip ... Paul

    #10: LADY IN A CAGE (1964) by Paul Glass, on Kritzerland CD (2012).

    For years, my LP of BUNNY LAKE IS MISSING was my only soundtrack written by Paul Glass.
    BUNNY LAKE is still a favorite, but won't be in my top 50 because of the LP's inclusion of 3 songs by The Zombies which ruin the listening experience for me.

    Then, in 2012, Kritzerland issues LADY IN A CAGE ... finally! I'd been wanting this item for a long time, and it resided on my wishlist for releases from Paramount.

    LADY IN A CAGE is an acquired taste. There's a number things working against this chamber score by Paul G.
    LADY IN A CAGE is a b&w film made prior to 1975 with a serial atonal music score performed by only 12 musicians - not exactly a hot title being sought after by the thousands.

    If I were an owner of a record label, though, and had dealings with Paramount, then LADY IN A CAGE would have been one of my 'holy grails' to produce. It's almost as if Bruce Kimmel released it just for me (and folks like me who know about it/seen it).

    The music of Paul Glass does not lay easily upon listeners' ears, but this score yields dividends to those inclined toward (many) multiple revisits to decipher its complex and uncompromising contents.

    An interesting aspect about this score's realization can be found in its instrumentation: 3 strings (1 violin, 1 cello & 1 double bass), 3 woodwinds (1 flute, 1 clarinet & 1 bassoon), 3 brass (1 horn, 1 trumpet & 1 trombone) and 3 percussionists (including Pearl Kaufman on harpsichord).
    This is an ideal mathematical structure of 4 instrumental groupings containing 3 instruments each.
    4 x 3 = 12. What could be a better arrangement for a dodecaphonic score? biggrin

    (great film music need not always be performed by large symphony orchestras)
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2014
    I'll post my 10th when i get my pc back from repairs.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2014
    Cobweb wrote
    (great film music need not always be performed by large symphony orchestras)


    Quoted for truth!

    I haven't heard LADY IN A CAGE but I do love BUNNY LAKE IS MISSING, yes, it is a shame that those three Zombies songs are included and make an unwelcome break to the album. To people here ( there'll be a few ) who won't like Paul Glass style I do recommend they seek out the theme to BUNNY LAKE IS MISSING, a truly lyrical and gorgeous theme.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2014
    and...


    # 11 JOHN BARRY - THE LAST VALLEY


    Both the original available on Intrada and Silva Screens complete rerecording vie for space here, I love both equally though that would change if the Barry original had a complete release. An historical drama that again has Barry channelling his choral chops, this score is big and beautiful, thematic and melodic and with the most sublime of choral writing. In my opinion, John Barry never wrote enough choral scores or historical epics, a real loss.

    If John Barry's WALKABOUT had a proper release that wasn't a bad sounding boot then that would have been my number 11, Silva's rerecording is great but I rarely play it beyond the Walkabout recording.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  9. Never saw that film, never listened to that score. I'll finally have to get spotify now.

    Well, I guess it's time to return to that galaxy far, far away:

    My # 11 is: The Empire Strikes Back by John Williams

    As with all classic SW scores I prefer the Arrista presentation. Well, all possible praise has long been bestowed upon this score. There is the "Emperial March", just as iconic as the SW main theme, "Yoda's Theme", "Han Solo and the Princess", "Lando's Palace" and one of the finest end title suites ever. The sound of the recording is head and shoulders above the other two scores.
    Honorable mentions go to the Sony presentation of the score and to Gerhardt's re-recording.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2014
    Alright. PC back, and ready for my 10th:

    10. WATERWORLD (James Newton Howard)

    One of my earliest soundtrack CD's and an instant love. It has everything -- majestic religioso music, spinechillingly beautiful 'water' textures on the electronics, swashbuckling heroism, loads of delicious ethnic textures and so on. What a brilliant concept album it is; hardly a second lull in its almost 70-minute running time. JNH did some sparkling scores in the 80s and 90s, but this one stands in a league of its own.

    ----

    Now the problem starts for me. The 10 I've mentioned I already thought about a few months ago when I did my Top 10 Celluloid Tunes episode. I haven't given much thought beyond that. So I'll have to think before I come up with my 11th.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Both the original available on Intrada and Silva Screens complete rerecording vie for space here, I love both equally though that would change if the Barry original had a complete release.


    Do (or did) you own the 1971 LP of THE LAST VALLEY, Timmer?

    The one I have is on the Dunhill label, but it's my understanding that this is the USA version and the original UK issue was on a different record label.
    Do you know TLV's vinyl history?

    When an LP program is simply re-issued onto CD without any previously unreleased material, additional bonus tracks or expansion, I think it's unfair the CD label gets the credit.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2014 edited
    #11: LES BICHES (1968) by Pierre Jansen, on rare Cinevox LP ('68) and Saimel CD (2012).

    I discovered the films of Claude Chabrol during the 1990s with all the then-available Chabrol titles on VHS tapes.
    LES BICHES was one of my earliest encounters with Chabrol cinema and it's the one which made the strongest impression upon me (both the film and its music score).

    For years, I could only experience Jansen's music by watching the film until, about 2004, I was fortunate enough to locate and obtain a copy of the ultra-rare Italian vinyl of LES BICHES on Cinevox.
    According to the seller, I was only the 2nd American to own LES BICHES (of which only around 500 were minted).

    I was overjoyed to have this superb soundtrack on disc, but its duration is very short (about 12 minutes per each side) and 25% of the content is party/source tunes!

    I expected that this might never arrive onto digital media and I never anticipated that the whole score would surface in 2012 on CD via Saimel.

    I was overjoyed again. smile

    The Saimel edition is a vast improvement [not regarding the sound, though, because the recording sessions were done in mono only]. All of the music heard in the movie is on the CD except for one piece.
    The tracks are not in any order at all as far as I can figure. The cues are definitely not in chronological film order, and 2 of them are repeated without any differences apparent - but, still, the Saimel disc doubles the runtime duration of the LP and makes for a very satisfying listen (to me anyway).

    Mr. Stefan Schlegel and myself are about the only 2 guys @ FSM who mention Pierre Jansen with any regularity, which is a shame since Jansen & his music certainly deserves more exposure and attention.
    I think I may have converted Kevin S. (Advise & Consent @ FSM) into a budding Jansen fan, though ... wink ...
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2014
    All that and not a word about the contents of the music itself, Cobweb? What's it like?
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2014
    Cobweb wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Both the original available on Intrada and Silva Screens complete rerecording vie for space here, I love both equally though that would change if the Barry original had a complete release.


    Do (or did) you own the 1971 LP of THE LAST VALLEY, Timmer?

    The one I have is on the Dunhill label, but it's my understanding that this is the USA version and the original UK issue was on a different record label.
    Do you know TLV's vinyl history?

    When an LP program is simply re-issued onto CD without any previously unreleased material, additional bonus tracks or expansion, I think it's unfair the CD label gets the credit.


    Yes I have it.

    http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/PEmTs_53JdQ/maxresdefault.jpg

    Mine is also on the Dunhill label, I bought it in a specialist shop 'That's Entertainment' in London's Covent Garden, they specialised in imports.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt