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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2014 edited
    The film, though not brilliant, is good and well worth seeing. I can't imagine any modern film makers investing today in a film set in Germany during the 30 years war. ( at least not unless it involved Aliens or werewolves )

    THE LAST VALLEY ( 1970 ) *

    Captain Future wrote
    Never saw that film, never listened to that score. I'll finally have to get spotify now.


    I've just had a look and am sorry to tell you that neither the Silva nor Intrada versions of The Last Valley are available there.

    *Does Martijn know Brian Blessed is in this film, albeit briefly? ( Michael Caine kills him wink )
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2014 edited
    Thor wrote
    All that and not a word about the contents of the music itself, Cobweb? What's it like?


    Ah - describing Jansen's music will take another 3 paragraphs. My post above is already long-ish, so I can type about it in more detail here.

    LES BICHES is similar in overall tone and content to Lalo Schifrin's THE FOX.
    Both THE FOX ('67) and LES BICHES contain scenes of Lesbian relationship, female masterbation, and 'straight' lovemaking (when one of the ladies also begins an affair with a man).
    However, if one is unfamiliar with THE FOX, then this comparison will leave one none the wiser.

    LES BICHES commences with aggitated strings during the main title credit sequence (not unlike a string quartet with percussion) and communicates a psychologically unsettling state of mind.
    This soon seques into a very beguiling lyrical theme, which becomes this picture's main theme and which depicts femininity and beauty (shot in the South of France).
    There's secondary themes, too. One has the character of a Mediterranean folk melody, whilst the most bewitching theme underscores the voyeuristic love scenes.

    What especially endears Pierre Jansen's LES BICHES to me are its chamber-music type variations on its main theme. Each of the instruments used (flute, English Horn, French Horn, bassoon, etc.) gets its chance to 'shine' performing the main theme as a soloist.

    The LES BICHES soundtrack is one of the finest representatives of the tema con variazioni approach to film scoring. (IMO smile )
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Yes I have it.

    http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/PEmTs_53JdQ/maxresdefault.jpg

    Mine is also on the Dunhill label, I bought it in a specialist shop 'That's Entertainment' in London's Covent Garden, they specialised in imports.


    Aha - Timmer still has his vinyl!

    Will any of your favorite 50 albums be an LP which doesn't have any CD counterpart, Timmer?
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeFeb 28th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    The film, though not brilliant, is good and well worth seeing.


    Yes, THE LAST VALLEY is worth seeing. Much better than its troubled distribution might indicate.
    Also, there's not many films in English with Brazillian actress/model Florinda Bolkan. Bolkan, around this time, was appearing with regularity in Euorpean co-productions, many of which were scored by Ennio Morricone.

    THE LAST VALLEY is a different sort of historical film - one which exudes an anti-establishment perspective reflecting its year of production: 1970.
    Michael Caine even shouts out, in one scene, that there is no God! (apparently Caine's Captain from 1640 read the same cover of LIFE magazine that Mia Farrow saw in ROSEMARY'S BABY proclaiming that God is dead).
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2014 edited
    Ah....Monday.


    # 12 SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC - RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS


    One of the greatest Golden Age scores IMO. A magnificent and awesomely bleak score that perfectly captures the icy landscapes and Captain Robert Falcon Scott's desperately doomed struggle to be the first to reach the South Pole, it's one of those scores where you can follow the whole tragic story viscerally and psychologically through the music, not surprisingly in that regard there are numerous Herrmannesque moments with the use of cathedral organ and sustained powerful chords. The choral moments are the most bone-chilling I have ever heard bar none.

    Like Prokofiev's ALEXANDER NEVSKY this score transcends the source it was written for and became Vaughan Williams 7th Symphony 'Antartica' and as such, I suppose technically, is the score I have the most recordings of ( well over a dozen ) including two recordings of the film score itself, one by Rumon Gamba on the CHANDOS label ( just this CD alone which also includes his superb scores for COASTAL COMMAND and THE PEOPLE'S LAND would have been enough to get on this list ) and the OST from i-tunes*

    *Pawel, if you're interested, the OST is also on Spotify.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. A great score, one you made me aware of. wave beer

    My #11 can only be STAR WARS - by John Williams

    One of the greatest ... blah ... blah ... blah ... All right, a really great score.

    Williams takes Stravinsky, Strauss, Korngold, Holst, Mendelssohn and his very own genius and turns it all into a masterpiece.

    There is so much going on here thematically! Only the sound of the OST remains rather poor.

    The Force is strong with Johnny.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2014
    A faultless choice Captain.


    My list so far from 1 - 12

    CONAN THE BARBARIAN - Poledouris
    THE LION IN WINTER - Barry
    KRULL - Horner
    THE BIG COUNTRY - Moross
    E.T. THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL - Williams
    STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - Goldsmith
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE - Barry
    THE FINAL CONFLICT - Goldsmith
    THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Morricone
    LITTLE BUDDHA - Sakamoto
    THE LAST VALLEY - Barry
    SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC - Vaughan Williams
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2014
    It will be a while before I can continue posting in this thread beyond nr. 10. I need to set aside time for sitting down and plotting out the remaining 40. FYI.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2014 edited
    Do you think you'd find it easier to list your top 50 non-score/film music albums Thor? I would.

    p.s. that remaining 40 doesn't have to be in an order of 'this is my eleventh favourite', 'this is my twelth favourite' etc,
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Do you think you'd find it easier to list your top 50 non-score/film music albums Thor? I would.

    p.s. that remaining 40 doesn't have to be in an order of 'this is my eleventh favourite', 'this is my twelth favourite' etc,


    Oh, Top 50 non-film would be MUCH easier!
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    My list so far from 1 - 12


    Timmer's dirty dozen (& 25% John Barry) wink
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    #12: SUMMER AND SMOKE (1961) by Elmer Bernstein, on RCA LP ('62) & Kritzerland CD (2011).

    Around 1988, I had gotten this LP and was hypnotized by its musical contents. SUMMER AND SMOKE has been an Elmer B. favorite of mine ever since and the Kritzerland edition only improves upon the previous album.

    Bernstein's writing here is at its most impressionistic. The swirling orchestral colors make an enchanting listen, as if Maurice Ravel had written music for Tennessee Williams' deep South.

    SUMMER AND SMOKE is not really French-sounding, though. It's evocative southern folk music, but also transends it. It is music of sighs, heartbeats, unspoken thoughts ... and eternity.
  2. Cobweb wrote
    sighs, heartbeats, unspoken thoughts ... and eternity.

    You don't happen to know James Horner, do you?
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      CommentAuthorfrancis
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Timmer, your number one arrived today (the 3CD version). First time I've owned it on disc, been meaning to get it forever. It's a classic but enjoyment-wise your #3 Krull beats it for me. I need to start chiming in here with my favorites but I have a real hard time placing any score on #1. smile
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Cobweb wrote
    Timmer wrote
    My list so far from 1 - 12


    Timmer's dirty dozen (& 25% John Barry) wink


    There's more where those came from! tongue wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014 edited
    Cobweb wrote
    Will any of your favorite 50 albums be an LP which doesn't have any CD counterpart, Timmer?



    Hmmm? I am deliberating on one future choice ( no, it's not a John Barry score wink ), it's a score I once had on LP but was unfortunately stolen in an incident way back in the early 80's, I now own the score on a Universal France CD but after the particular score I don't play much of the rest of the CD, so by my own criteria of playing full albums it no longer qualifies for listing......or does it qualify by default??
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  3. Universal France sounds like Georges Delerue. smile
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014 edited
    francis wrote
    I need to start chiming in here with my favorites but I have a real hard time placing any score on #1. smile


    Try not to be too hard on yourself when choosing a placing, given a different mood on any given day I could quite easily juggle my top 20 around. Because of my own criteria of choosing scores it's worth me pointing out that some of my all time favourite scores will not be making this list simply because the album may contain a track or two that I prefer to skip while playing.

    francis wrote
    Timmer, your number one arrived today (the 3CD version). First time I've owned it on disc, been meaning to get it forever.


    punk beer You prefer my #3 over this eh? I'm sure I can live with that. cheesy

    Anyway, good to see you on this thread francis and I look forward to your choices.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Universal France sounds like Georges Delerue. smile


    A great label. Do you not have anything from this label Captain? They cover a lot of great French film music and not just Georges Delerue. ( in fact they even released one Jerry Goldsmith score, Papillon )
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. I have "Regarding Henry" by GD. Great lable indeed.

    I totally did not know about that "Papillion" release. Instantly ordered. Thanks, mate!

    beer
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    I totally did not know about that "Papillion" release. Instantly ordered. Thanks, mate!


    Cool! smile
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Cobweb wrote
    Will any of your favorite 50 albums be an LP which doesn't have any CD counterpart, Timmer?



    Hmmm? I am deliberating on one future choice ( no, it's not a John Barry score wink ), it's a score I once had on LP but was unfortunately stolen in an incident way back in the early 80's, I now own the score on a Universal France CD but after the particular score I don't play much of the rest of the CD, so by my own criteria of playing full albums it no longer qualifies for listing......or does it qualify by default??


    I have remembered one vinyl album that may have made the list but unfortunately it also went in that early 80's incident. It was Peter Schickele's SILENT RUNNING, it's never been released on CD slant
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    I have remembered one vinyl album that may have made the list but unfortunately it also went in that early 80's incident. It was Peter Schickele's SILENT RUNNING, it's never been released on CD slant


    Peter Schickele?
    PROFESSOR Peter Schickele?
    From the P.D.Q. Bach series? shocked
    punk I *love* his work! punk
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. Yeah! VS so needs to release SILENT RUNNING on a club CD! At least we do have a recording of the theme from Silva Screen.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    I have remembered one vinyl album that may have made the list but unfortunately it also went in that early 80's incident. It was Peter Schickele's SILENT RUNNING, it's never been released on CD slant


    Peter Schickele?
    PROFESSOR Peter Schickele?
    From the P.D.Q. Bach series? shocked
    punk I *love* his work! punk


    YUP! punk

    There's quite a few of his "classical" works released on NAXOS I'd like to check out too.

    Martijn, Check this track from SILENT RUNNING out, it's one of my all time favourites, one of the most tender, touching and moving pieces of film score I've ever heard, perhaps 'bitter sweet' would be the most apt description. I'm not expecting you or anyone to think the same, it's just that I love it so much and wanted to share.

    TENDING TO HUEY
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  6. Maybe they can't get to terms with Joan Beaz?
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2014
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Cobweb wrote
    sighs, heartbeats, unspoken thoughts ... and eternity.

    You don't happen to know James Horner, do you?


    No ... I don't know Horner.

    Those words are the sort of description that Elmer B. used in his note on the reverse side of the RCA LP. smile
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2014
    Timmer wrote
    I now own the score on a Universal France CD but after the particular score I don't play much of the rest of the CD, so by my own criteria of playing full albums it no longer qualifies for listing......or does it qualify by default??


    FYI, Timmer.

    There's quite a number of compilation albums, such as the one you mention, which I've excluded from my 50 because the listening experience of the entire program dilutes the potency of the score which I like best.

    I think we should limit ourselves to albums with a single musical program, unless an album contains 2 or 3 scores which are uniformly favorites. smile
  7. Cobweb wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Cobweb wrote
    sighs, heartbeats, unspoken thoughts ... and eternity.

    You don't happen to know James Horner, do you?


    No ... I don't know Horner.

    Those words are the sort of description that Elmer B. used in his note on the reverse side of the RCA LP. smile

    'Twas just a little tease. Your rather poetic description reminded me of James Horner's cue titles... wink
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      CommentAuthorRobinson
    • CommentTimeMar 5th 2014
    Hmmmmm... I would like to put in this list the following ones: American Beauty, Finding Nemo, Signs, To kill a Mockingbird, Vertigo, Psycho, Up, Ratatouille...
    Robinson