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- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
NP: Indiana Jones And The Temple of Doom (1984) - John Williams
The original Polydor album playlist.
I reconstructed the original playlist for curiosity's sake.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
Vangelis - 1492: Conquest of Paradise
One of my biggest turnarounds when it comes to score opinions. I used to really hate this one, now I really love it
Bought it in Kraków this year. Actually some cool purchases, including the complete Into Darkness (Star Trek) on a REALLY bargain price (a third of the price I'd pay for getting it directly off Varese).http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015 edited
You HATED this!? Despite the prevalence of the radio-friendly main theme (especially back in the 90s), this is one of my favourite scores.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
Yup. It should be forbidden to hate it.
Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
It was one of the rare cases when my opinion of the music as it serves the film clouded my judgement of it on album (I can usually separate the two experiences quite well). Obviously it's nonsense as a film score but fortunately I've come to love the album as time since seeing the film has passed. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
Wyatt Earp - JNH
A wonderful piece of work in a great 45-minute playlist suggested by a friend. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
Hans Zimmer and Klaus Badelt - The Pledge
A small-scale, somewhat gloomy, sometimes weird, score, which is emotionally quite interesting. Not for everyone however. It's really a couple of instruments + electronics. And two pretty themes.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 7th 2015
1864 - Marco Beltrami
It drags somewhat in the middle but either end is great, especially the first cue. -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Jurassic World - Michael Giacchino
My first impression is that this is the weakest of the three 2015 Giacchino scores released so far. That said, it's still a respectable work, with a very good theme and some impressive "awed" music in the first half. The second half is more problematic, with relentless action music that feels even less structured than usual for this composer.
The Williams quotes felt out of place (for me). -
- CommentAuthorJohn Chambers
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Jurassic World Giacchino
Enjoying this on my first listen, there's some fine emotional, suspense and action music here. Writing this score which follows and incorporates parts of, in my opinion, one of Williams' absolute best scores is the very definition of a thankless task. Every time there's a prominent use of stunning material from the original score it just makes me want to go and listen to the real thing but that's not Giacchino's fault. Curious to see how I feel about this one on further listens when I can judge it more on it's own merits. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
After my first listen, it's my fourth favourite Jurassic Park score. It could do with a better playlist though, as usual...
Bearing in mind I'm a BIG fan of the three that went before it. Don Davis's score is an undermentioned gem. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
I'm enjoying most of it! As The Jurassic World Turns is a gem of a track!
But I agree: the two originals and Davis' work are better.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Giacchino's score is pretty much a disaster, IMO, and only made worse by the appearance of Williams' stupendous themes. But I promise to at least give it a shot on album with an open mind as possible.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Peur Sur La Ville - Ennio Morricone
I almost bought the new Music Box release of this but realising the potential trap, searched for alternative titles and discovered that I do already own it, with identical musical content but under an Italian rather than French title. So I condensed it back to the original album presentation and am listening to it for the first time in years. Good stuff but not as striking as some of his other scores for this director. -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Hmm. Very different reactions to Jurassic World, it appears. I'm hoping to listen to it later this evening, but the almost unanimous agreement that even JP3 is better aren't giving me much hope. Obviously the first one is, as it introduced me to both film and film scoring, one of the most precious scores I know, the second one being a great, awesome sequel score, but I think Don Davis' score is absolutely horrible (I still curled my toes as to how awful it is when I sampled tracks recently) and I was hoping Giacchino's would at least fare better. Here's hoping, still... -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Some folk have some very odd reactions to Jurassic Park scores... 'Horrible', 'disaster'. Mental. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
It's very good. I applaud thematic continuity through film series but it's frequently jarring when a composer tries to shoe-horn another composer's theme(s) into a score and this is no exception but it's very good all the same. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Southall wrote
It's very good. I applaud thematic continuity through film series but it's frequently jarring when a composer tries to shoe-horn another composer's theme(s) into a score and this is no exception but it's very good all the same.
Williams' music is the best part of the score, and I fully support its use (wonderfully used in the film too). The only jarring aspect occurs when Giacchino's random noodlings enter.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Steven wrote
Some folk have some very odd reactions to Jurassic Park scores... 'Horrible', 'disaster'. Mental.
They just weren't there, man.
THEY JUST WEREN'T THERE!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Thor wrote
Giacchino's score is pretty much a disaster
BobdH wrote
I think Don Davis' score is absolutely horrible
The heck are you people smoking?
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- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
I disagree with Bob on JP3. I think it's a fine score that nurtures Davis' idiosyncratic style while at the same time nodding to Williams in an organic fashion. Noisy? Yes. But somehow rewarding. But it's still miles behind the two first scores. And JP4 is miles behind JP3 again.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Thor wrote
Southall wrote
It's very good. I applaud thematic continuity through film series but it's frequently jarring when a composer tries to shoe-horn another composer's theme(s) into a score and this is no exception but it's very good all the same.
Williams' music is the best part of the score, and I fully support its use (wonderfully used in the film too). The only jarring aspect occurs when Giacchino's random noodlings enter.
Yes, you mentioned that before, and even if you hadn't then all of us would have known that's what you thought. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015 edited
Mr. Smartypants!
I thought it was worth pointing out that there's a difference between the 'jarring' aspect you speak of and the 'jarring' aspect I think of. I don't agree that it's such a bad idea to incorporate existing themes in new scores. In fact, I usually support it (being a continuity junkie). It only requires that the rest of the score tries to live up to that standard or otherwise tries to make it organic. Which Giacchino's score rarely does, because its quality is so low.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Thor wrote
a fine score that nurtures Davis' idiosyncratic style while at the same time nodding to Williams in an organic fashion.
Speaking of random noodlings... -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2015
Don Davis is a rare case of making it work. He's ghostwritten for a lot of major A-list film composers and you can rarely hear the joins, so he's something of a specialist in doing that sort of thing even when his name isn't in the credits, so it's no surprise that he did it so well when his name was in the credits.
In fairness to Giacchino, when he's just throwing a few bars of Williams in, he does it well. It's the "big" statements of the theme (and there's only a couple, on the album at least) when it doesn't sound quite right to me. -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeJun 10th 2015 edited
Ok, so I just heard Jurassic World. I tend to agree with the enthusiasts and naysayers alike. I applaud Giacchino for using Williams' original themes, and while it doesn't sound as organic as it should have (leaving the piano theme near the end unfinished and trailing off into Giacchino's JW-theme version is just awkward and unsatisfactory), it's nowhere near the disaster of Don Davis' huge thematic mistakes (the horrible needle-stuck-on-the-gramophone version of the Journey to the Island-theme in The Dinosaur Fly-By; the plain wrong appliance of the main theme during Cooper's death, to name just a few).
Meanwhile, although Giacchino does make the same Don Davis mistake here and there to think he's scoring a family film (something Williams never quite did) in terms of tone, most of the time Giacchino nails the Jurassic Park sound a lot better than Davis which is evident right from the first track which perfectly captures the Jurassic Park adventure/suspense mood (and Costa Rican Standoff just smacks of The Raptors Appear from The Lost World which I thoroughly enjoyed above anything in JP3). Giacchino in general just shows a much better knowledge of Williams' work, sneaking in cool little bits of trademark JP chords to keep you aware of what you're listening, almost as some kind of spot-them-all Easter eggs.
Ultimately I infinitely prefer this above JP3 (it didn't leave me irritated, for starters, which is a big plus), although I already know I will edit several tracks out in future listening sessions as there are several moments that have no business to appear in a Jurassic Park score (and that includes the tracks after the (fabulous) suite, which are just out of place bonus tracks. You'd do well to avoid these and end your experience after the suite). -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 10th 2015
I find it interesting (well, a bit interesting) that both Davis and Giacchino used Williams's JP themes more than Williams himself did in The Lost World (and in fact the most jarring use of a JP theme anywhere is surely that time in The Lost World that the JP theme appears seemingly at random over Richard Attenborough in his office). Ditto Rambo, where Brian Tyler used Goldsmith's First Blood theme much more than Goldsmith himself did in either of the sequels he scored. -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeJun 10th 2015 edited
Yes, that was my major gripe with JP3 at the time as well. I thought it was incredibly well judged by John Williams to shy away from his iconic themes (well, mostly, apart from that one use you mention near the beginning, which to be honest I really didn't mind) up until the very end, and then, that glorious finale! It still gives me goosebumps whenever I hear the score to The Lost World in one go.
Those themes were for the park, the wonder of the dinosaurs, and Davis had no business using them so much (and even then in such awful fashion). However, in terms of Jurassic World I can clearly see how Williams' themes figure into the film since the park is completed and people come to see that wonder of the dinosaurs again. In its completed vision of the park this time, so it's even allowed to go that extra bit bigger with choir (even if my initial response was, gee, Williams' never needed that much choir, his restrained use generated more awe). -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJun 10th 2015
BobdH wrote
You'd do well to avoid these and end your experience after the suite
The suite is far too long for me to sit and listen to it again.
The second listen left me less enthusiastic about this score. The action scoring is a bit too overwhelming and verges on just being a cacophony of aimless action music - a common thing with a lot of modern action scores. And I too could do without the overt "family feel" to the score.
Overall, it's a "solid score" (that good old reliable non-committal term) that doesn't quite enter my Top 10 action/adventure scores for the year.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorDavid OC
- CommentTimeJun 10th 2015
Stonehearst Asylum - John Debney
It's an absurdly long release, but there's a brilliant 40 minute score on here waiting to have the other 35 minutes pared back.