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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2015 edited
    NP: Agent 47 - Marco Beltrami

    Marco has such an interesting action resume. His score don't all sound alike. Some are great, some are good, some aren't anything. This one, it's good enough, but filled with temp track influence. But I still prefer this over his score to "The Gunman".
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2015
    Andrew Lockington is an average composer at best anyway... so.... yeah. I just sat through the San Andreas movie with my wife last night and I swore the score was written by a third rate Media Ventures composer. Mind you, he has written some solid cues. I do really like his theme from Journey 2 and his theme from San Andreas. But besides Skinwalkers he hasn't put together a solid, cohesive effort that doesn't sound like David Arnold ( wink ) yet.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2015
    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    ^ Weirdtardedland has a new resident!

    -Erik-


    A new resident is fine as long as I remain the P-resident.


    lol
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2015 edited
    NP: War Horse - John Williams

    Got to go home early today and prepare a shoot schedule for my latest TV commercial. I decided to throw this on. A bonafide masterpiece.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  1. Erik Woods wrote
    Andrew Lockington is an average composer at best anyway... so.... yeah. I just sat through the San Andreas movie with my wife last night and I swore the score was written by a third rate Media Ventures composer. Mind you, he has written some solid cues. I do really like his theme from Journey 2 and his theme from San Andreas. But besides Skinwalkers he hasn't put together a solid, cohesive effort that doesn't sound like David Arnold ( wink ) yet.

    -Erik-

    No way man. There's some dope brass writing in San Andreas that's far beyond what an MV composer could do. Much more complex.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2015
    Dope? Pffffffft!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  2. Go listen to "Hoover Dam" again! (The first half...before the horn of doom bullshit starts up in the last minute slant ). Not the most distinctive action music in the world, I'll grant you, but there's some real ballsy snarling force in that brass.

    Also, "Skydive". Still one of the best cues of the year. Even if it sounds like "Chevaliers de Sangreal".
  3. NP: Sick Boy - Matt Linder

    A mixed bag. Some catchy tracks where the synths are interesting but the majority is soundscapes and weird electronic effects - sometimes veering into Forbidden Planet territory. Goodness knows what it's like in the movie (which is apparently pretty poor).
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    NP: Army of Darkness - Joseph LoDuca & Danny Elfman

    Great action scoring, beautifully lyrical in places and soaring chorus - nice! And a bit of Cape Fear thrown in as well!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Go listen to "Hoover Dam" again! (The first half...before the horn of doom bullshit starts up in the last minute slant ). Not the most distinctive action music in the world, I'll grant you, but there's some real ballsy snarling force in that brass.

    Also, "Skydive". Still one of the best cues of the year. Even if it sounds like "Chevaliers de Sangreal".


    Hi... my name is Andrew Lockington and I can't write anything that doesn't sound derivative. Snarling brass... it's all BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! But, to be honest, "Hoover Dam" ain't that bad. Couldn't hear a lick of it in the film though. Oh, and that guitar bullshit. I definitely heard that crap in the movie though.

    vomit

    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    NP: Saving Private Ryan - John Williams

    This (along with the film) should have won the Oscar in 1998. "High School Teacher" remains one of the most heart wrenching cues Williams has ever written. Those three statements of the main theme are incredibly moving. Poignant stuff. And a wonderful recording by Shawn Murphy of the Boston Symphony.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  4. NP: Prince of Darkness - John Carpenter & Alan Howarth

    I am not that familiar with this one. But the main theme - or at least the melody that repeats throughout the score - is a bit too similar to his theme for Christine to be completely enjoyable. But, the rest is typical Carpenter with a bit of a twist to it.

    The complete score is probably a bit too long though.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    ^ Love the film. And the score as heard in the movie just adds to the terror! And I'm probably more forgiving to the score on CD because I love the movie. But the score is still creepy as all hell by itself.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  5. Erik Woods wrote
    ^ Love the film. And the score as heard in the movie just adds to the terror! And I'm probably more forgiving to the score on CD because I love the movie. But the score is still creepy as all hell by itself.

    -Erik-

    I don't think that I've seen the film all the way through - just dipped in and out of it when channel-hopping. But what I have read about the film, the score is a big asset.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
  6. FalkirkBairn wrote
    NP: Prince of Darkness - John Carpenter & Alan Howarth

    I am not that familiar with this one. But the main theme - or at least the melody that repeats throughout the score - is a bit too similar to his theme for Christine to be completely enjoyable. But, the rest is typical Carpenter with a bit of a twist to it.

    The complete score is probably a bit too long though.

    I think that one of the things that has put me off this score in the past is the synth choral voices that feature. As with Glass' Candyman, it's an aspect of the score that grates slightly.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    It's those synthy voices that creeps me out the most!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    Ooo, I'm with Erik on this one. I love this score (for what it is, i.e. not a sunny afternoon's listening!), and those synth voices are creepy as hell (totally fitting the movie as well!)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    Up till now this year's most listened-to composer in my collection is -slightly amazingly- Bear McCreary. By a MILE!
    And it's not just because of the man's quite indomitable energy and frankly insane output (I think he's scoring 4 out of every 5 TV series over the world, right?), but because even if at times a certain Horner-esque self-repetition tends to creep in now and again, his output is consistently of an incredibly high quality!

    While I'm saddened to see Zimmer and his semi-rhytmic dronefest is becoming the go-to guy and sound for every new Hollywood film coming out, I would heartily welcome more, more, MORE Bear on TV!
    (But where is that Black Sails Season 2 CD? sad )

    NP: Da Vinci's Demons (season 2)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    While I deeply admire Bear, I kinda feel at this point that he's basically regurgitating material he's already written. I'm not sure if he's just overworked or has simply hit a stylistic plateau for the time being but I've been disappointed in his last few major releases.

    (I think what he really needs is to move on to film. With some sympathetic collaborators (like what Giacchino has set up), I think he could really shine.)
  7. Erik Woods wrote
    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    How d'you mean? confused
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    NP: THE TOUCH (Basil Poledouris)

    Great score for what seems like a very silly film -- the symphonics, the ethnics and the electronics! Could probably have benefitted from scaling down some 20 minutes, though.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    How d'you mean? confused


    Because it sounds like a third rate MV composer ripping off Chevaliers de Sangreal. Keep it up, Lockington!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  8. I don't have to say what and who I think should have won in 1998, do I? wink

    Harry Gregson-Williams - The Martian

    If it took Ridley Scott to make HGW establish his orchestral action voice in full, it also took Ridley Scott to have him reinvent that.

    That said, of course, The Martian is not an action score, not even really an action film. Scott is back on top form with this low-key survival story and so is Harry Gregson-Williams who gets out of his typical mold, while retaining his own style.

    It's a very melodic, pleasant and atmospheric work. There is a main theme, which is presented in the first cue with a beautiful harmony and then it just doesn't let up in building a combination of serene atmosphere combined of course with the necessary tension, that a survival story demands. The film doesn't feature the metaphysics that Gravity (it is a redemption/rebirth story) and Interstellar do. But the serenity featured in both Price and Zimmer scores is also there. It's an added value for the film whenever the score refers to the vistas of the Martian landscape. At the end of the day, this is the biggest advantage of the music.The combination of tension (which is more low-key than in the downright oppressive Price score, which is, I think, close to a masterpiece on its own merits) and a sort of calming presence, also the modern touches that fit Mark Watney as a character so well (a somewhat flamboyant scientist) is just very good.

    And then comes the most surprising aspect of the score. As I said, it took Ridley Scott to make Harry Gregson-Williams invent his epic orchestral action sound. And that's the way it was for some years. After Kingdom of Heaven it seemed like the guy was capable of two things: writing harsh electronica for his Tony Scott films (which most notably was expanded in the, IMHO, underrated The Equalizer) and, basically, rewriting The Battle of Kerak, whether it was a Persian prince trying to save the world or aliens attacking cowboys (Alien Air Attack). This time, first, the action is far more low-key. It's not very electronic, the action music is firmly written for an orchestra, expanded in context of the rest of the score (trumpets and more woodwinds, also bigger choral presence in the final act). But it's not at all The Battle of Kerak.

    This leads us to temp-track influence. Whether the last track is influenced by The Matrix or John Adams himself (I'd personally lean towards the former) is probably disputable. That makes the action music, though, stand out from the rest of his career. Fans of James Newton Howard will definitely notice Lady in the Water in Build a Bomb. Crops Are Dead has a religious-minimalist tinge, but the bassoon (beautifully supported by a solo voice) solo harkens back at another Matt Damon tentpole - the Bourne trilogy (what's refreshing though is how it's NOT the action ostinato this time) and a slight Hans Zimmer influence, best heard in the latter half of the first track (the string writing in the cue).

    All-in-all I think it's one of my favourite scores Harry Gregson-Williams ever wrote and it aches me it's not available on CD. The only downside of the album (and it's slightly better on album than in the film, I think) is that as heard on CD, the finale is a bit anti-climactic. One would want to hear a return to the main theme or at least a slightly longer expansion ("die-down") of the material.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  9. Erik Woods wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    How d'you mean? confused


    Because it sounds like a third rate MV composer ripping off Chevaliers de Sangreal. Keep it up, Lockington!

    -Erik-

    Oh come on. The influence is there but it's not nearly as blatant as you're making it sound. That soaring brass? Man, if the brass sounded like that on crappy MV/RC scores I'd listen to them way more often!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    PawelStroinski wrote
    I don't have to say what and who I think should have won in 1998, do I? wink


    It's Ok. You can say it. John Williams is the right answer.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015 edited
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    How d'you mean? confused


    Because it sounds like a third rate MV composer ripping off Chevaliers de Sangreal. Keep it up, Lockington!

    -Erik-

    Oh come on. The influence is there but it's not nearly as blatant as you're making it sound. That soaring brass? Man, if the brass sounded like that on crappy MV/RC scores I'd listen to them way more often!


    It's totally blatant . This is the sort of shit that keeps film music and composers from progressing. As much as I'm not a fan of Lockington's work, he is better than what he was forced to write in San Andreas.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  10. Erik Woods wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    I don't have to say what and who I think should have won in 1998, do I? wink


    It's Ok. You can say it. John Williams is the right answer.

    -Erik-


    As much as I like (and that's a lot!) Saving Private Ryan, I definitely prefer it as an album than the film score. It's not the lack of action music, of course. This decision is very much understandable and out of discussion. However, sometimes I do seriously wonder, how the film would play out if the only music in the film was Hymn to the Fallen over the End Credits.

    Of course, this also leads to whether the cemetery scenes should be also scored, but in all honesty, I have to say that I consider them the weakest link of an otherwise brilliant film. While High School Teacher is beautiful, I do think that the music does more in the Omaha Beach sequence, where not only it adds poignancy and even some urgency to the overhead shots of the tragedy of the landings, but also leads the narrative during the writing of the letters and delivery of the information to Mother Ryan.

    Not having the film scored would be a big risk in a Hollywood film of this type and age and I think that being even more sparse in the use of the music would be beneficial.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  11. Erik Woods wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Skydive is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!

    How d'you mean? confused


    Because it sounds like a third rate MV composer ripping off Chevaliers de Sangreal. Keep it up, Lockington!

    -Erik-

    Oh come on. The influence is there but it's not nearly as blatant as you're making it sound. That soaring brass? Man, if the brass sounded like that on crappy MV/RC scores I'd listen to them way more often!


    It's totally blatant . This is the sort of shit that keeps film music and composers from progressing. As much as I'm not a fan of Lockington's work, he is better than what he was forced to write in San Andreas.

    -Erik-

    Hm. I think you're overreacting. The influence is there but it's not like 300/Titus or anything. In fact I didn't even notice the Chevaliers similarity at first until someone else pointed it out.

    I do agree that San Andreas is far from Lockington's best work, but it's still a solid modern action score to me.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2015
    Edmund Meinerts wroteHm. I think you're overreacting.


    Not at all. Temp tracks need to be extinguished immediately. They're a crutch and incompetent little wiener directors are leaning on that crutch more and more and it's bloody annoying!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  12. Played two days ago:

    The Rock by Nick Glenny Smith (or whoever)

    After a long time. The very definition of a guilty pleasure. Enjoyed it immensely.

    Hollywood's Greatest Hits
    Erich Kunzel

    A great, if very mainstream, compilation.

    I listened to this over my newly acquired Bose Sound Link color. Nice device. It reminds me a bit of listening to my old mono record player, minus hiss and scratches of course.

    smile Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.