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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    I misjudged The Water Horse as well. After a few listens now, the boringness is somewhere in the middle, when the story seems not yet started. But then, the second half is great. The main theme breaths James Newton Howard on all levels. And Swimming is super. spin
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorDavid
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: --> "Swimming" from The Water Horse

    shocked

    -Erik-


    Oh yeah! That track literally gave me goosebumps the first time I heard it. First time that's happened since I first listened to Return of the King in 2003.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    There are just waaaaay too many amazing cues in this score not to put it on the top 10. This is the James Newton Howard we know and love... welcome back old friend!!!

    And the combined tracks of - There's No Monster/Saving Crusoe/The Net/The Jump/End of the Story - is the best finale I've heard on any score album this year!

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOLKS. THIS IS GOLD!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    NP: The Incredibles - Michael Giacchino
    On a bit of a Giacchino binge here. Love that blaring brass and the funky sax in the main titles.
    Great fun, and a great original (with a fair bit of love and respect for Barry and Mancini).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    There are just waaaaay too many amazing cues in this score not to put it on the top 10. This is the James Newton Howard we know and love... welcome back old friend!!!

    And the combined tracks of - There's No Monster/Saving Crusoe/The Net/The Jump/End of the Story - is the best finale I've heard on any score album this year!

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOLKS. THIS IS GOLD!!!

    -Erik-


    Wow... not what I think at all. Slightly disappointing and bland overall, but a couple of obvious highlights which are excellent. Mostly it wants me to listen to what obviously made up the temp-track, Braveheart, Far and Away and The Horse Whisperer.
  1. And Gladiator.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007 edited
    Southall wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    There are just waaaaay too many amazing cues in this score not to put it on the top 10. This is the James Newton Howard we know and love... welcome back old friend!!!

    And the combined tracks of - There's No Monster/Saving Crusoe/The Net/The Jump/End of the Story - is the best finale I've heard on any score album this year!

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOLKS. THIS IS GOLD!!!

    -Erik-


    Wow... not what I think at all. Slightly disappointing and bland overall, but a couple of obvious highlights which are excellent. Mostly it wants me to listen to what obviously made up the temp-track, Braveheart, Far and Away and The Horse Whisperer.


    I don't hear any of that... with the exception that there are celtic elements in the score. Bah! None of Howard's score sounds like the scores you mentioned. None of those scores themes or orchestrations are present. This is a JNH score from start to finish. His voice is plastered all over it!

    But since I'm ignorant could you please point out where JNH ripped off the supposed temp track?

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  2. Oh god, please, no... another rip-off discussion. crazy
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Oh god, please, no... another rip-off discussion. crazy


    I'm curious... because I can't hear it!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007 edited
    I consider this to be the thrown gauntlet and the agreement to fight:
    Erik Woods wrote
    Southall wrote
    Mostly it wants me to listen to what obviously made up the temp-track, Braveheart, Far and Away and The Horse Whisperer.

    But since I'm ignorant could you please point out where JNH ripped off the supposed temp track?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    NP: Koenig Der Letzten Tage - Wojciech Kilar

    A masterpiece. One of my greatest discoveries of 2006.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  3. Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Koenig Der Letzten Tage - Wojciech Kilar

    A masterpiece. One of my greatest discoveries of 2006.


    I agree since 1994. biggrin
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    NP: Koenig Der Letzten Tage - Wojciech Kilar

    A masterpiece. One of my greatest discoveries of 2006.


    I agree since 1994. biggrin


    Lucky!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007 edited
    Not really, I believe it was a german telemovie that was well advertised those days. There was no way I could have overseen this, and I was looking for great medieval atmosphere scores at that time since I just started my Warhammer RPG campaign then.

    Or did you mean lucky because of the long time? Yeah, I think so. Although I didn´t listen to it in years. Probably time to change that. smile
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    All I was saying was that it took me 12 years to discover it. But, I'm glad I did!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  4. Oh, okay. Anything else I could point you to? wink
  5. Erik Woods wrote
    I'm a sucker for Celtic music.


    Then there's no hope for it. We aren't destined to get on if we find ourselves stranded on an island together w/ a Chieftains album. wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Oh, okay. Anything else I could point you to? wink


    Always open for suggestions! Always.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    I'm a sucker for Celtic music.


    Then there's no hope for it. We aren't destined to get on if we find ourselves stranded on an island together w/ a Chieftains album. wink


    Thank God I like it because my wife is a Newfy! Michael, NEVER visit Newfoundland!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  6. I guess you already discovered the rest of Kilar? Portrait of a Lady is phenomenal.
  7. I thought Newfy was all Scottish, not Irish? wink (Then again, I suppose it's all Celtic these days... about the only thing the Irish and Scots would agree on...)

    Agreed on PORTRAIT OF A LADY. My single favourite score from the 90s. So rich and swoonable!
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    What is it with Newfy's and Newfoundland?
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    franz_conrad wrote
    I thought Newfy was all Scottish, not Irish? wink (Then again, I suppose it's all Celtic these days... about the only thing the Irish and Scots would agree on...)


    It's mostly Irish with Newfy's.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    None of Howard's score sounds like the scores you mentioned. None of those scores themes or orchestrations are present. This is a JNH score from start to finish. His voice is plastered all over it!

    But since I'm ignorant could you please point out where JNH ripped off the supposed temp track?

    -Erik-


    Oh, nowhere. They're just clear influences (or they sound like it to me, anyway). No ripping-off involved.
  8. *phew*
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007 edited
    Southall wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    None of Howard's score sounds like the scores you mentioned. None of those scores themes or orchestrations are present. This is a JNH score from start to finish. His voice is plastered all over it!

    But since I'm ignorant could you please point out where JNH ripped off the supposed temp track?

    -Erik-


    Oh, nowhere. They're just clear influences (or they sound like it to me, anyway). No ripping-off involved.


    Ooookaaaay!

    Anyway... it still kicks ass!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007 edited
    NP: Krull - James Horner

    It's masterpiece day in the Woods house hold! Playing this nice and loud!

    That soaring string theme which is also heard in "Ride of the Firemares" and soooooooooooo good!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Glad you like The Water Horse Erik! I definately think it's one of the year's best. I agree, Swimming just kicks ass!

    NP: The Water Horse: Legend Of The Deep - James Newton Howard

    punk
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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeDec 12th 2007
    Krull rulls! I still remember being blown away by Horner's score while watching the film at the cinema back in 83. To me it's Horner's magnum opus!

    NP: The Water Horse - J Newton Howard

    I really like this score! Some lovely moments here.
    Southall says it's crap! Why? There is much to enjoy in this score.
  9. Brian Tyler - Alien vs Predator: Requiem

    Still a disappointment and yes, I think it's the case of my grudge with Tyler's music. I've been listening to the man for few days trying to look for a very strong style and found his best work, which as of now is Children of Dune. But then again, Children of Dune is also full of temp-track influences with Gladiator being the biggest one. Oh, well.

    AVP: R is a very referential score, but the question of agreement is whether there are "cheaply copies" or not. And in the case of this score sadly it's the case of a track. Coprocloakia is one of the best track. Some of the most Tylerish moments of the score actually are taken from Silvestri's Predator. Horner's Aliens counts a lot in the influence, mostly in the underscore though, except Decimation Proclamation, where you almost get Futile Escape in the course. Alien Arrival refers to Horner, not Goldsmith. Lots of the orchestrational effects are Horner's idea too.

    The biggest crunch I have and I *will* have with Brian Tyler is something Southall voiced and that is his originality. Ironically the composer that affects him the most is JAmes Horner. But this discussion I will move to his respective thread.
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