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I wouldn't know, as I haven't heard that score.

Listen to it! Apart from the repetition stuff, it's one awesome Williams score!

Yep, it's the Gayenne Ballet your thinking of. ( and I'm spelling it wrong, it's Khachaturian )

But Williams credited 'When You Wish Upon A Star' for Close Encounters. Not meaning to start a Horner fight here, but I bet all my money (which isn't a lot incidentally) that if it were Horner who had done that, the words 'When You Wish Upon A Star' would not be found anywhere in the liner notes! The Khachaturianianenen piece is SO blatant a note-for-note rip that I'm shocked he wasn't sewed?

I wonder if anyone's ever bothered to find and record down every time Horner directly lifts from a 'classical' piece? And every time he reuses a theme and motif? That would make for an interesting list! Yes yes, I know you could do it for pretty much every composer, but Horner's the one who does it more frequently and blatantly than most other composers. (Which isn't something I'm necessarily vehemently against before someone gets their virtual fisty cuffs out.)

I dunno. He's got more publicity from doing it than the others, but when it boils down to it most of the best film composers have done it a lot. I wish they would give credit, especially when it's note-for-note like in Aliens, or the Hanson in ET / Copland in Saving Private Ryan, don't really understand why they don't. Williams has done it frequently, Goldsmith did it, Zimmer does it all the time, there was a guy at FSM who made a huge list of all the pieces Jerry Fielding had used (uncredited) in his scores - don't really know why it's always Horner who takes the rap.

The point with When You Wish Upon a Star is that it was something everyone was going to recognise, and more to the point it was in copyright (held by Disney of all people - I doubt there would be a more aggressive pursuer of copyright violations than them) and so a financial payment would have to be made to use it. It's with the more famous pieces like that when credit tends to be given (because frankly it's doubtful that anyone in any position to do anything about it would even notice when it's something less famous) - it can get a bit dicey if you get caught out (as Horner was with whatever score he got the film company sued over - Batteries Not Included I think?)

Add Cocoon to that.


NP : THE 3 MUSKETEERS - Michel Legrand



Fantastic score!

NP: The Mission - Ennio Morricone

Third time today. Just heavenly.

You and Ralph CONTINUE to put words in my mouth. Again, this is a general comment made about film music in general not just solely directed at Zimmer. Zimmer fans... Every time there is something negative to be said about film music you automatically think we are talking about Zimmer even when his name isn't even mention. BTW, you did realize that I was aiming my comment in the direction of Journey To The Centre of the Earth. Now, it might be just , but I don't think Zimmer composed that particular score... please, correct me if I'm wrong.

As for the theme comment... I didn't say that there aren't themes being created... I'm just saying there is less and less of those fully developed themes... something that you can hum for more than just four or five notes. A tune. A true tune in the tradition of let's say...Henry Mancini. I just heard a brilliant rendition of three of his themes on an album called Movie Memories. There is a wonderful concert arrangement of three of his tunes packaged into a nice 6 minute suite. We get the theme from Charade, Two For The Road and his legendary Moon River. Such magnificent, fully developed tunes and great stand alone pieces of music. We rarely get stuff like that anymore unless it's from the pen of a John Williams who take the time to craft concert arrangements of his main themes for the album. I miss that sort of thing in film music these days.

-Erik-

Piffle.

Crysis | Inon Zur

Truly dreadful, synthy crap.

Timeline is a personal favourite of mine. I'd give it (that's the true rating system Mr. Co-Creator! )

I hope it gets the deluxe treatment! Surely with all the Goldsmith scores being released these days, we will eventually see it happen?

Some friends are round, and I've been ordered to put some film music on!

So:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture Jerry Goldsmith

This is what Willis was talkin' 'bout.

Yep, uni friends have traveled from far and wide to stay at my humble abode... i.e. my parents are on holiday for the weekend. Go figure!

Still, only a week and I'll be back for good.