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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Steven wrote
    The Black Dahlia is certainly one of my favourites of the 00s. Rarely has a composer impressed me so much and disappointed me equally as much afterward.


    Far Off Place James Horner

    Magical stuff. Sort of sounds like Broughton in places?


    I love this score! Interesting you mention Broughton as I remember hearing that this was ghost written though I can't find anything to back that statement up.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    NP: Bolt - John Powell

    Seriously addicted to Bolt Transforms, Scooter Chase, A Fast Train and Rescuing Penny!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Southall wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    2. JAMES NEWTON HOWARD is not just an excellent composer; he's one of the last few remaining artists in film music. Another such an example is Alexandre Desplat.


    Honestly? Would a true "artist" write Michael Clayton, or Freedomland, or The Lookout, or Dreamcatcher? I know there's some great stuff to go along with that dross, but the ratio's not healthy enough for me to lose my doubts.


    All the world's greatest artists produced some crap from time to time in their lives.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009 edited
    Southall wrote
    Steven wrote
    Seems odd you would condemn a composer for their less-than-admirable scores. Horner's produced his fair share of less-than-admirable scores during his career. Even Goldsmith didn't get it right all the time. But there were/are still great composers.


    Indeed. But JNH probably needs another 25 or so really borderline-great scores before he gets to Horner level (and he's probably a very similar age), and another 25 after that to get to Goldsmith. Good though JNH's best work is, it's a billion miles behind even Horner's best (Signs is good... but Star Trek II or The Rocketeer or Legends of the Fall-level?), let alone Goldsmith.


    No he doesn't need that. He's musicianship and ability for crafting beautiful, meaningful melodies and brilliant themes is unique and has already brought him way ahead many, many others, even from the older days of his career, not just now. Especially when he goes Shyamalan-y, his scores are outright examples of modern film music at its most brilliant and his outcome in general is always one step (at least) ahead the masses. I truly consider him as a part of around 5 people who can still do that in film music.

    As for the inferior part of his music through the years, i believe you know way better than me, that there are several Goldsmith scores (to say but an example) which are simply unbearable, namely the ones packed with his synth farts.

    That doesn't diminish his grandeur the least.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  5. Christodoulides wrote
    He's musicianship and ability for crafting beautiful, meaningful melodies and brilliant themes is unique....


    No PR-type language permitted here. tongue
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    biggrin Not a better pr for him than VILLAGE or SIGNS. Put those scores in, along with bits of UNBREAKABLE and you have a clear display of my points.


    Damn i should have been paid for all this angry
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Good God, how have I managed to stay quiet for this long? dizzy
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Synth farts.

    biggrin
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Southall wrote
    Steven wrote
    Seems odd you would condemn a composer for their less-than-admirable scores. Horner's produced his fair share of less-than-admirable scores during his career. Even Goldsmith didn't get it right all the time. But there were/are still great composers.


    Indeed. But JNH probably needs another 25 or so really borderline-great scores before he gets to Horner level (and he's probably a very similar age), and another 25 after that to get to Goldsmith. Good though JNH's best work is, it's a billion miles behind even Horner's best (Signs is good... but Star Trek II or The Rocketeer or Legends of the Fall-level?), let alone Goldsmith.


    I see your point. I suppose it just depends on our personal preferences when it comes to Signs, I find it as enjoyable and as good as Star Trek II IMO, they're just two very different scores... plus I think I have a little more faith in JNH than you and Michael.

    (Again, Michael Clayton is just bloody awful.)
  10. Here's a question to separate the sheep from the goats. Which would you prefer - THE FORGOTTEN, or MICHAEL CLAYTON?
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Clayton!
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    franz_conrad wrote
    Here's a question to separate the sheep from the goats. Which would you prefer - THE FORGOTTEN, or MICHAEL CLAYTON?


    The Forgotten does more for its film, but then I guess it's a considerably weaker film. I'd rather have neither, I think.

    Anyway, I allowed myself to get carried away with all this JNH business. My original post was only to offer the opinion that if you took away his Shyamalan scores, you're not left with much, but fortunately you don't have to take them away, and they're all very good. I find talk of him being a great artist frankly laughable, or even a great film composer. I can tell you what Alex North or Bernard Herrmann or Jerry Goldsmith (or James Horner!) brought to a film that no other film composer would have been able to do, but I couldn't tell you the same thing about JNH. I'm sure his big fans could (LSH?)
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009 edited
    Southall wrote
    I find talk of him being a great artist frankly laughable, or even a great film composer.


    Being a fan of his non-Shyamalan beautiful scores like Dinosaur, Atlantis, Treasure Island, Water Horse, Waterworld, Signs and King Kong, I must disagree. Strongly. wink
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Like Ravi, I can only really point to examples of his work.

    To each his own, blah blah...
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    I just dig his style. You know you're listening to JNH, and I bloody love the guy!
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Ditto.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    NP: Dinosaur - James Newton Howard

    I was truly, truly moved by The Egg Travels and Breakout while watching the movie! Extremely powerful. And Raptors/Stand Together is a terrific action cue!
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    I think JNH is not a great composer. He has remarkable scores, and his style is quite recognizable, but he doesn't surprise a lot.
    Kazoo
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    DemonStar wrote
    NP: Dinosaur - James Newton Howard

    I was truly, truly moved by The Egg Travels and Breakout while watching the movie! Extremely powerful. And Raptors/Stand Together is a terrific action cue!



    But where's the pan pipes!? shocked wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009 edited
    For fuck's sake Tim, just insert a few of those damned cues from Quantum Of Solace into the album if it makes you happy.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    LSH wrote
    For fuck's sake Tim, just insert a few of those damned cues from Quantum Of Solace into the album if it makes you happy.


    But I don't like the pan pipes in that!?? dizzy
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    How can anyone not like pan pipes? sad
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    How can anyone not like pan pipes? sad


    Pah! Go pull out yer old Georgie Zamfir CD's rolleyes wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    How can anyone not like pan pipes? sad


    I know!? confused Ever since I first listened to Under Fire, I've LOVED pan pipes!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Steven wrote
    Martijn wrote
    How can anyone not like pan pipes? sad


    I know!? confused Ever since I first listened to Under Fire, I've LOVED pan pipes!


    Yes indeedy.....when used well cool beer

    Morricone's The Mission also fits that too cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    For fuck's sake Tim, just insert a few of those damned cues from Quantum Of Solace into the album if it makes you happy.


    But I don't like the pan pipes in that!?? dizzy


    Fair enough.

    NP: Nothing

    Goodnight...

    [I won't be posting again until the weekend as I'm going on a little trip for three days to a small rural town by the coast with plenty of wine bars. smile ]

    Toodle-pip.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Steven wrote
    Martijn wrote
    How can anyone not like pan pipes? sad


    I know!? confused Ever since I first listened to Under Fire, I've LOVED pan pipes!


    Yes indeedy.....when used well cool beer

    Morricone's The Mission also fits that too cool


    My favorite use is in The Karate Kid I and II. Daniel's training montage in the first film especially!

    -Erik-
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    LSH wrote
    Timmer wrote
    LSH wrote
    For fuck's sake Tim, just insert a few of those damned cues from Quantum Of Solace into the album if it makes you happy.


    But I don't like the pan pipes in that!?? dizzy


    Fair enough.

    NP: Nothing

    Goodnight...

    [I won't be posting again until the weekend as I'm going on a little trip for three days to a small rural town by the coast with plenty of wine bars. smile ]

    Toodle-pip.


    Have a great time Lee beer

    p.s. you do know I was jesting? the two villains in DINOSAUR are south american dinosaurs and yet the music is mostly african influenced wink

    ....I'll get my coat slant
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Timmer wrote

    p.s. you do know I was jesting? the two villains in DINOSAUR are south american dinosaurs and yet the music is mostly african influenced wink


    I tend not to worry about it since it's a film with TALKING DINOSAURS. biggrin
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    p.s. you do know I was jesting? the two villains in DINOSAUR are south american dinosaurs and yet the music is mostly african influenced wink


    Of course, you've mentioned it several times before.

    ....I'll get my coat slant


    No! You're not coming.

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