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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010 edited
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    I don't mind fresh new approaches but hearing that "Main Theme" doesn't fill me with confidence. For me, that sort of composition sounds more out of place then something along the lines of a Kamen styled score.
    Well, obviously. But wouldn´t you at least agree that this is better than hard rock?


    Are we sure that there isn't any hard rock in THIS new score? It's all the rage!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  2. Erik Woods wrote
    Ralph... I didn't resort to digs and insults so why did you have to. Anyway, I'll just be ignoring your most recent comments because I'm tired of you getting all pissy anytime I respond to one of your posts. And if someone else had of written what you did I would have said the EXACT SAME THING. I don't seek you out and plan an attack. Your not that important to me.
    Like I said, no harm done. Where you get that insult and pissy thing, though, I don´t understand. Probably a sign of our different sense of humour, then.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010 edited
    Ok... then I must have taken that a bit too serious. shame My mistake. Sorry.

    beer

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010 edited
    Great. beer

    Now, with that stuff out of the way, back to business.

    No, we can´t know what´s in the score and what´s not. All I can say is that, even for a hard and bloody retelling of Robin Hood, I still prefer a theme inspired by Zimmer´s Chevalier to a theme inspired by, well, hard and bloody rock, as much as you prefer an adventure style classic theme.

    As I said, I love classic scoring, and I love adventure style, I just don´t need it in a Ridley Scott film. Just because it´s Robin Hood, it doesn´t automatically scream for spirited adventure. That movie with Patrick Bergin didn´t, Robin of Sherwood certainly didn´t. The new BBC series however, did. Have you listened to Andy ... Lane(?)´s score. That was a nice return to classic style. Probably not inspired enough for you wink , but, at least, classic. You can listen to it here, if you want to:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltm32akXRYY

    I´m not against adventure scores in modern movies, that has nothing to do with it. Pirates of the Caribbean or Prince of Persia would certainly be great modern adventure movies where such a score would (have) be(en) great. On the other hand, I´m okay with what Zimmer/Badelt have done with it, I love what Zimmer did for AWE, and since I love HGWs adventure scores, I guess I will also like PoP. Maybe you´re lucky and we get a Sinbad style score for that one (well, in case you liked Sinbad, of course).

    But Ridley Scott is a man blessed by his talent to make extraordinary movies. And I´m very optimistic his Robin Hood will be - at least - a well-crafted movie. Scott doesn´t do spirited adventure. If you look at 1492 and compare it to the Columbus movie of the same year, I find it a blessing that Scott chose Vangelis. As much as I love Eidelman´s score, 1492 would have drowned in a score like that.

    We have to see the movie, of course, to see what would have worked better, but for now, I think I´m very okay with what I can listen to at the homepage.
    • CommentAuthorLars
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2010
    what is the reason, why most of the filmscore fans are expecting, that the style of the new score HAS TO BE like the kamen score?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2010 edited
    What I would like is less modern electronic drone with generic writing and themes and find a more competent composer who has the symphonic chops to write striking, memorable material and not just rehash Chevalier in it's basic form.

    What I'm also afraid of is Streitenfeld or Ridley Scott himself coming up with some lame excuse that Robin Hood doesn't deserve a full character theme because doesn't earn it until the end of the film. That's just silly non sense. I didn't buy it in Casino Royale (no Bond theme until the end of the picture) or in Star Trek (Courage's fanfare used at the end of the film.) This trend of getting away from full bodied thematic symphonic film scoring is disturbing which is why I would cheer for something along the lines of Kamen's Robin Hood and less Zimmer's Chevalier.

    BTW, would any be against Streitenfeld doing more of a Gladiator score. That definitely had an upbeat, heroic almost swashbuckling theme (especially during The Battle) that didn't feel out of place during such a serious, Oscar winning film.... the only thing sounding out of place was the SOUND of Zimmer's synth overlayed orchestra.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2010
    There's a time for Kamen-style adventure histrionics and there's a time for other approaches. Easy as that. It's all on a film-to-film basis.

    That said, Kamen's score would sound quite oldfashioned today and wouldn't connect well with mainstream Hollywood films (not even adventure films) and audiences. They simply don't make adventure films that way any more.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2010
    Thor wrote
    They simply don't make adventure films that way any more.

    Fortunately....Prince of Thieves, watched today, is a joke. Time has been cruel to that film.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2010 edited
    Really?
    I'm just annoyed by Kostner.

    But that's pretty par for the course.

    I find myself -reluctantly (because I wish it weren't so)- agreeing with Erik that full-bodied thematic scores simply aren't fashionable these days. I see absolutely no reason for the absence of a score that can both be dark, realistic and thematic (and adventurous).
    Williams did it. Goldsmith did it. Poledouris did it.
    And they all worked!

    That it wouldn't be the spirit of the times seems a feeble argument to me, moreover because we see most blockbusters actually being remakes. That it is commercially more viable as we see YouTube remixes made by 15 year olds putting hardrock against Star Wars scenes as "cool", is far more the issue here: the general directive On Holywood High apparently has gone out that a score should not detract from the thunderous visuals OR the songs. It's a commercial decision (and in that sense it is a sign of the times, obviously).

    I can't fault the executives for thinking commercially.
    But I do regret that as a primary creative motivation.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010
    Tracklist and cover of Robin Hood - http://www.varesesarabande.com/details. … -067-020-2

    1. Destiny (3:35)
    2. Creatures (2:09)
    3. Fate Has Smiled Upon Us (2:01)
    4. Godfrey (3:32)
    5. Ambush (1:14)
    6. Pact Sworn In Blood (2:52)
    7. Returning The Crown (1:13)
    8. Planting The Fields (1:17)
    9. Sherwood Forest (2:19)
    10. John Is King (4:01)
    11. Robin Speaks (2:31)
    12. Killing Walter (1:58)
    13. Nottingham Burns (2:11)
    14. Siege (2:09)
    15. Landing Of The French (2:46)
    16. Walter’s Burial (3:04)
    17. Preparing For Battle (2:38)
    18. Charge (1:18)
    19. Clash (2:41)
    20. The Final Arrow (2:29)
    21. The Legend Begins (1:27)
    22. Merry Men (1:48)

    Not a bad cover IMO. Score runs about 51 min.
    • CommentAuthorLars
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010
    thanks for the info. and you're right, not a bad cover. now we need soundclips.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010
    Looks more and more like a Gladiator 2 thingy as time passes smile
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010
    Godfrey again?
    I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to!
  14. 51 min, good thing they don't continue the trend to release every minute of the score, 50 minutes will suffice I think
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010 edited
    Scribe wrote
    Godfrey again?


    Must have been a popular name back then. Isn't it the etymological root or Geoffrey/Jeffrey? dizzy
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2010
    As long as he is not trying to re-use his deleted backstory from Kingdom of Heaven biggrin
    I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to!
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2010
    There's a new clip from the Robin Hood film, with score by Streitenfeld - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLUOZ7ysjeo

    The music sure ain't no Michael Kamen but it certainly doesn't sound like the crapfest that was expected... quite orchestral and good use of brass and strings from what is heard. I hope the rest of the score is good too... looking forward to the soundtrack now.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2010
    thanks for the link!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2010
    Sounds good, but it's just a fragment, very forgettable. Looking forward to the full score.

    The movie sure does look like Gladiator 2 !
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  20. Well, it most certainly seems that Scott shot a sequel to Kingdom of Heaven (you can easily watch them back to back, chronologically) with a Gladiator as the main star.

    Since I love both films dearly, I have no problem whatsoever with it. ^^

    I´m very much intrigued by the whole legend, especially how it got changed over and over again. I love its ability to be versatile and to be adapted into very different styles. Just take Errol Flynn, Disney´s animated version, Mel Brook´s movie, "Robin of Sherwood" from the Eighties, the films with Costner or Patrick Bergin ... They couldn´t be more different from each other, and still each of it works perfectly.

    I do not expect "the definitive RH", I expect "Scott´s take on RH", and I´m certain he will deliever. Point is, I don´t even expect an action extravaganza like the trailers are promising. I think we will see more politics and drama, and I can´t wait to see it.
    • CommentAuthorLars
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2010
    another clip. you can hear the "main theme" in the backround

    http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/robin … -intruders

    looks and sounds cool. i think more orchestral than gladiator.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2010
    But less memorable. Looking forward to it but not going bananas over it; Marc can't be the composer Zimmer is.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2010 edited
    Lars wrote
    another clip. you can hear the "main theme" in the backround

    http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/robin … -intruders

    looks and sounds cool. i think more orchestral than gladiator.


    MEH!


    Christodoulides wrote
    But less memorable. Looking forward to it but not going bananas over it; Marc can't be the composer Zimmer is.


    Yes. I hope that the score will be good and that the samples true doesn't represent the full score. Looking forward to this score not sucking.
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2010
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2010
    slant

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  26. Even I'm thinking... sleep
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2010
    Well to be fair, the expectations were never high with this one so no surprises.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorLars
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2010
    sounds great, especially track 3 and 13. i love that kind of music.
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2010 edited
    Not as bad as I was expecting...
    • CommentAuthortimme
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2010
    They sound OK, better than what I was expecting. But I'm gonna wait until I hear the whole thing to make up my mind

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