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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    Southall wrote
    The Dark Knight Rises

    Fishy fishy pasta pasta. Very hard to think of anything else, now. Ruins the film.


    And that's going some, the film isn't very good anyway.


    No, it isn't, especially compared with the other two. But I did think the music harmed it in a way the other two's music didn't (I don't think their scores helped them, I should say - but they were bland enough to stay out of the way).
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2013
    Anthony wrote
    plindboe wrote
    Cool, Steven, looking forward to latter seasons. Breaking bad is the last place I'd expect CG, but I guess that will make it all the more impactful.

    Yep, the Dexter character is pretty easy to sympathize with. I remember that one of his first kills seemed to start with torture, but since then he's gone over to killing everyone in a rather quick way; perhaps because they wanted people to be more sympathetic towards the character. Anyway, I'm glad the show is not torture porn.


    But what makes it good is that he never wants to kill anybody but he knows he doesn't have a choice.


    I think in the last season they made a point about The Dark Passenger being his excuse to kill, and him coming to terms with that. I think up to that point we felt like Dexter's urges were just that; urges. Natural, instinctive. But I like where they took it in the last season, where we see Dexter wanting to kill. They shifted the focus more on the desire than the need. Which was a good decision by the writers since it keeps things interesting, and feels like a step in the right direction for the development of his character.

    Then again, I like my TV shows dark and bleak, so I guess I would say that. (Unless of course it's Firefly.)
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    THE MUSIC OF JAMES BOND


    A 21 minute long condensed and edited version of a 2 hour show, not bad at all.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    Southall wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Southall wrote
    The Dark Knight Rises

    Fishy fishy pasta pasta. Very hard to think of anything else, now. Ruins the film.


    And that's going some, the film isn't very good anyway.


    No, it isn't, especially compared with the other two. But I did think the music harmed it in a way the other two's music didn't (I don't think their scores helped them, I should say - but they were bland enough to stay out of the way).


    I wonder if the Prinzsesz still reads your reviews? wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. Probably not. For her own sake. She gets a bit TOO emotional about that stuff...

    Granted, there are reviews which I find offensive (Christian Clemmensen), but still, that's overreaction.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Probably not. For her own sake. She gets a bit TOO emotional about that stuff...

    Granted, there are reviews which I find offensive (Christian Clemmensen), but still, that's overreaction.


    I don't think she does either, I don't think I've ever seen anyone on any forum who is so precious about somebody they do not know personally.

    Christian used to post at our former board ( ScoreReviews ) but he fell out with people.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. She's more emotional about the music rather than the person. If she loves a score (like she actually does love TDKR), she tends to lose the necessary distance that "it's just music". It becomes a sort of mission for her to defend it.

    Though sometimes it is about the people as well. I tried to argue with her about Horner's behavior in an interview where he basically destroyed Terrence Malick (because the experience of The New World was traumatic to him, but telling the director to basically go "fuck himself" was wrong) and Gabriel Yared (who really, according to Horner, can't compose film music, you know) was wrong and she got so defensive about it that it didn't make any sense...
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  3. Timmer wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Probably not. For her own sake. She gets a bit TOO emotional about that stuff...

    Granted, there are reviews which I find offensive (Christian Clemmensen), but still, that's overreaction.


    I don't think she does either, I don't think I've ever seen anyone on any forum who is so precious about somebody they do not know personally.

    Christian used to post at our former board ( ScoreReviews ) but he fell out with people.


    Judging from the ScoreBoard Christian has resorted to non-reaction rather than getting angry in public. However, it's not my place to say anything about that. While I do not agree with every single review he has written, Christian certainly is one of the most knowledgeable guys I have come across so far when it comes to film music.
    On another note: I would love some more activity over at moviemusic.uk. Jonathan? Do you copy?
    And while I'm at it: Anyone knows anything about cinemusic.net or goldenscores.com ?

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    Cinemusic is Ryan Keaveney's baby (from Music from a Darkened People). Goldenscores is sdtom's baby, isn't it?
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    I watched PROMETHEUS again -- on my father's 50'' TV, on Bluray and in 3D. God, it's so beautiful. A fantastic film, my favourite from last year.

    Of course, it does have a few warts, the most obvious -- to me -- being the fact that they bothered to have Guy Pearce in old man's make-up when there really wasn't any reason to (you never see him as young). Why not just hire an old guy for the role?
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2013
    I think the most obvious is the nonsensical buttfucking retarded script (the religious nonsense for example). Other than that, it is a very beautiful film.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    Ridley Scott's films are always beautiful to look at.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    They are, but it sounds a bit reductive when you phrase it like that, since FORM is CONTENT in his films. The audiovisuals have meaning in themselves, they're not just there to be 'pretty'.
    I am extremely serious.
  4. In a way, I would agree. I think Scott is actually capable of combining form and function into one. As in, I haven't really witnessed a meaningless shot in his films, granted, he has some single shots that are rather atmospheric than propelling the story forward (I could argue about the whole ship introduction in Alien, when the camera is slowly going through the ship until finally settling for the hibernation chamber; or the overhead hover of Osaka after Charlie's death in Black Rain, though that one actually also introduces the next day) while using music for emotional purposes. In other ways, Ridley does use visuals to convey pure atmosphere or pure emotion, but usually he doesn't make shots that aren't "interested" in the storytelling at all.

    I mean, let's look at the first shot of Gladiator. As much as I've seen almost everything directed by the guy (Prometheus not yet, Robin Hood not yet and I yet missed out on Legend and Someone to Watch Over Me) and this is something he's been always master of, what I call the Ridley Magic of First Shot. My favourite is actually Gladiator and by that I mean the "hand in the wheat" (to those interested, using the Lisa Gerrard piece was Hans' idea, "as a gift to Ridley", Scott wanted it silent). It builds an atmosphere, it creates the film world, and yet...

    The image proves very relevant later in the story.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    Yeah, the "hand in wheat" scene has serious significance, not only narratively, but also in terms of setting up emotional and symbolic contrast to the brutal scene that is to follow.

    The opening of ALIEN is also LOADED with meaning that is communicated exclusively through audiovisuals. The pan through the corridors (and the use of sounds and Goldsmith's "breathing" two-note motif) foreshadows the corridors of the alien ship. It links the Freudian/sexual/life cycle aspect of the two. The human spaceship is 'sleeping' in a womb-like state, while they actually penetrate the even more explicit "womb corridors" of the alien ship (through vagina-shaped doors) to find the eggs within. Goldsmith's two-note motif is repeated in this sequence to link the two scenes. It provides great atmosphere, of course, but there's also a lot of stuff going on, symbolism-wise.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013 edited
    Robin Hood is PANTS!!!!

    Try making an excuse for that one.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    I really enjoyed ROBIN HOOD for a variety of reasons, but was underwhelmed by the Streitenfeld score.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    Robin Hood is PANTS!!!!


    So is PROMETHEUS no matter how pretty it looks!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Robin Hood is PANTS!!!!


    So is PROMETHEUS no matter how pretty it looks!

    -Erik-


    wave spin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Thor wrote
    They are, but it sounds a bit reductive when you phrase it like that, since FORM is CONTENT in his films. The audiovisuals have meaning in themselves, they're not just there to be 'pretty'.


    I do wish he'd use those visuals to create a truly interesting dramatic idea though. (e.g. when I see similarly pretty sculpted imagery in say, a Malick film or a Wong Kar Wai film or a Jacques Audiard film, that imagery very often will feel like a curious or apposite choice for what is being depicted. With Scott's modern films -- Blade runner is a very different kettle of fish -- I rarely get the feeling I will get from those guys films.)

    My favourite image from PROMETHEUS, the one that stayed in my head and which I wish had been closer to how the film worked, was a dolly advancing into Meredith Vickers room on a dutch tilt with the lighting flickering in and out and imagery of a young girl playing violin on a screen in the background. The frame within the frame stayed with me. Moments later a woman found a monster on the other side of a door and it went back to being a perfectly unambitious attempt to scare.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    franz_conrad wrote
    Thor wrote
    They are, but it sounds a bit reductive when you phrase it like that, since FORM is CONTENT in his films. The audiovisuals have meaning in themselves, they're not just there to be 'pretty'.


    I do wish he'd use those visuals to create a truly interesting dramatic idea though. (e.g. when I see similarly pretty sculpted imagery in say, a Malick film or a Wong Kar Wai film or a Jacques Audiard film, that imagery very often will feel like a curious or apposite choice for what is being depicted. With Scott's modern films -- Blade runner is a very different kettle of fish -- I rarely get the feeling I will get from those guys films.)


    Well, I wouldn't expect an all-in arthouse film from Scott (even though he has done that on a couple of occasions). His forte as a director is that he's able to infuse arthouse sentiments into a traditional Hollywood narrative. Both elements fuel each other so they merge in a higher entity.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    franz_conrad wrote
    My favourite image from PROMETHEUS, the one that stayed in my head and which I wish had been closer to how the film worked, was a dolly advancing into Meredith Vickers room on a dutch tilt with the lighting flickering in and out and imagery of a young girl playing violin on a screen in the background. The frame within the frame stayed with me. Moments later a woman found a monster on the other side of a door and it went back to being a perfectly unambitious attempt to scare.


    Yeah, the Vicker escape pod is a fantastic piece of artwork. Lots of things going on at the same time there. In fact, there are a few "tableaux" like this throughout the film.
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  6. The rhythms of David's life before the others wake up is one of the other really striking sections of the film. (I wish the rest was a bit more like this. It's the part most like ALIEN and Kubrick before him.)

    As to whether Scott would ever make a pure art film... probably not at this point in his life -- you'd have to think he'd have already done it if he'd wanted. But he certainly could have gone that way. We're not talking Warhol here... most of the cases I've cited are people just tackling narratives still, they just get a bit more divorced from the demands of Hollywood scriptwriting structure.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2013
    franz_conrad wrote
    The rhythms of David's life before the others wake up is one of the other really striking sections of the film. (I wish the rest was a bit more like this. It's the part most like ALIEN and Kubrick before him.)

    As to whether Scott would ever make a pure art film... probably not at this point in his life -- you'd have to think he'd have already done it if he'd wanted. But he certainly could have gone that way. We're not talking Warhol here... most of the cases I've cited are people just tackling narratives still, they just get a bit more divorced from the demands of Hollywood scriptwriting structure.


    Have you seen the "Jonathan" segment from the anthology film ALL THE INVISIBLE CHILDREN (2005) -- directed by Ridley and his daughter Jordan? It's probably as close as he has been to a pure arthouse film in recent years and I felt it was clearly visible which parts were his and which were his daughter.
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  7. Haven't actually -- I don't know the film. I'll look it up.

    I've seen a few films recently. I'll just sort them into two camps, those that energised me, and those that wore me out.

    THOSE THAT ENERGISED ME: Rust and Bone, Perks of Being a Wallflower, Lore, Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgandy, Brick Lane, After the Wedding, Melinda and Melinda, Zoolander, Late Quartet, In a Better World.

    THOSE THAT WORE ME OUT (not without merit in themselves): Lincoln (there's a great snappy 75 minute congressional procedural film in there), Django Unchained (Christophe Waltz is great), Cloud Atlas (wonderful ambition, but the wrong approach to this material was to make it an elaborately intercut makeup showreel), Bituful (great in many ways but allowed to be a bit indulgent, like Babel).
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Probably not. For her own sake. She gets a bit TOO emotional about that stuff...

    Granted, there are reviews which I find offensive (Christian Clemmensen), but still, that's overreaction.


    I don't think she does either, I don't think I've ever seen anyone on any forum who is so precious about somebody they do not know personally.

    Christian used to post at our former board ( ScoreReviews ) but he fell out with people.


    Different Christian Tim
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2013
    MASK OF DIIJON (1946) It's worth a watch to see Edward Van Sloan (Dracula) and Erich Von Stroheim in a film about hypnotizing people. Low budget from PRC directed by Lew Landers.
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2013 edited
    Just saw the restored Bluray of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA on my dad's TV. Wow, that's just insane. Stunning resolution that allows me to see the film in a whole other light, with a bunch of different details and textures I hadn't seen before -- like the glittering in the sand, the sandy winds, the cracks of the mountains etc.
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  8. Total Recall (2012 version)

    I wanted to enjoy this one, and I even did during the first hour (especially because of the insane set design and visual style), but the last half hour was seriously disappointing. The brief winks to the original were catchy (the new face was even downright hilarious) but the actors filling in for the original roles were nothing short of lackluster, especially if we were constantly reminded of the original due to the use of names and the 3 breasted woman. Oh, and they should have included a Jerry Goldsmith score moment when Farrell played the piano, because it was sadly the only melodic musical moment in the film. Visually mindblowing, but lacking in every other department nonetheless. I think I never missed Jerry more than now. sad

    6 out of 10

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    Wreck it Ralph

    This could / should have been the latest Pixar movie, because it has everything that the final Pixar movies didn't have (enough). Namely heart, intelligence and ideas. What a great movie, a homage to the older gamers amongst us with a lot of cool ideas and entertaining scenes. The final minute alone shows us that Disney (for now) replaced PIXAR at the top when it comes down to memorable endings. Highly recommended!

    8 out of 10
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
  9. 1977

    After whatching Saturday Night Fever again after a number of years (still a great film btw) I just realized how many of my favourite films came out in 1977:

    ABBA – The Movie shame
    Airport ‘77
    Black Sunday
    The Brothers Lionheart (Sweden)
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    Damnation Alley
    Demon Seed
    Jabberwocky
    McArthur
    New York, New York
    Pete’s Dragon
    The Rescuers
    Saturday Night Fever
    Star Wars

    I was 6 years old then. I saw The Rescuers. Maybe the first film ever I have seen in theatre.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.