Actions & Consequences

I agree Stavi would be the perfect mod: evidently she teases everyone into submission (with or without the threat of judiciously applied violence)..

Man this is tiring...



Next time I will put a big fat wink beside all posts that are meant to be in light just for you, Ralph, because everyone else seemed to understand that what I wrote was just in good fun.



As you just pointed out, Ralph, if I have an issue with something I will clearly explain why... as I have in other threads on this board.



Talk about blowing something completely out of proportion.



Why thank you. Honestly, thanks but is it POSSIBLE that I might have missed some of your posts because there are hundreds upon hundreds of pages of posts and threads here and that I just don't read EVERYTHING that EVERYONE has ever written here. I'm sorry that I missed some of the nice things you have said about me... but unless I actually read it how am I suppose to know it's there?



Fun isn't it... the anticipation... The thrill of the hunt! <-- That wink is just for you, Ralph.



How many other people around here were aware of his actions at other message boards? Anyone? I've been a proud member of this board and the scorereviews board since 2001 and I just don't want to see this place infested with people like Sunil who has been banned from other boards for inappropriate behavior. I think I have every right to point this out to not just to the mods but to everyone else around here to stay clear of repeat offenders. Sunil was a cancer.



Sure it is... and I hope other people around here would point out things that bother them. We are a close knit family here and I think we all have some sort of say concerning the inner workings of the board and whatnot. Mods, please feel free to set me straight if I am wrong.



Look, I'm truly sorry if I have offended you in any way but it always seems like you take things way too personally which includes ANYONE who might disagrees with something you might have to say.



Man, you really have to get your facts straight. I don't like Sunil. Just Sunil. I have no issue with his race or personal beliefs. What I didn't like was his inappropriate behavior at Filmtracks (where he was banned as well - so Christian Clemmensen must also be a racist) and I didn't like that fact that he brought that same behavior over here. As I said earlier I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he might change his ways here but after being repeatedly told that his behavior was inappropriate... not just my me but by the mods... he finally went overboard (I saw this coming a mile away) and was finally banned from MT. Sunil is a boy who NEVER learns from his mistakes and constantly lies to everyone here when he supposedly apologizes for his actions and then just does that same inappropriate thing a week later. We don't need that around here.

In addition, and as pointed out by Maritjn, I've had bouts with other members. Not just Sunil but with Steven, lp, Tom, Timmer, Demetris (man we do get into some heated arguments), you, Jordi, etc. But I don't hate them OR YOU just because they might disagree with something that I have written or any of my opinions. At the end of the day, after we are all bloody from the multiple blows absorbed from battle, we all give each other a big hug and move on.



You really thought I would just leave this alone... especially after you try to defend your racist remarks against me. Come on man...

-Erik-

I want a kiss on the cheek from Stavi, our peace goddess!

I agree a bit with everyone in this thread. I feel sorry for the boy, he's way too thin-skinned and passionate to fuction normally on an online forum.

Kudos to Martijn for starting this thread and basically inviting criticism of his decision. It's a breath of fresh air, compared to the often seen dictatorial behaviour of mods on most other boards.

Peter

Good point Peter about the invitation of criticism

Here here!

I've rarely seen any heated discussion get uncivilised at this board and long may that continue

Your wish is my command oh Mighty Administrator!

What about heated insults? Nasty discussions?

Depends on your definition Thor, I'm sure D and Martijn would regard a discussion by me on spiders as a 'nasty discussion' ( and some )

And 'Nasty insults'? 'appens everyday yer big Norwegian girls blouse

Of course i am kidding. I was glorifying your feminine powers

Indeed it is.

Wow, that would great, thanks.

So, let me say this again, just to be sure: If it´s a short rant, it´s a joke. If it´s a long rant, it´s not. I´ll try to keep that in mind.

Well, if you need an example, you can look up those Batman Begins videos you did with different music. There you will find me thanking you for taking the time to do it. And remember our discussion about that Coruscant action sequence where you explained to me what´s great about it? I´m absolutely sure I thanked you for that, too. And those were the examples from occasions were I thanked you RIGHT THERE, not at some strange topic about german cookies or whatever.

Strange ... I think that one I might have gotten without any help. But thanks anyway.

I remember lots of discussions were Sunil offered his opinion, and nothing strange happened, until you came in and HAD to point out how silly that comment was. Everyone else already knew it but didn´t care to mention it, because it was the NICE thing to do. Will you at least admit that you and Sunil was a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy to happen?

It would be different if it wouldn´t be you ALL THE TIME. Let someone else have the fun to point out things from time to time, will you?

Now this is total crap and you know it. I rarely have serious discussions with anyone around here, and if it´s not with you, it is with someone who is defending you. That doesn´t count seperately. I think. The point is, if you attack someone for what he writes, likes, or thinks, it is only a very thin line to getting personal. And the way you say things, you cross that line sometimes. Is that really so hard to see? But I will, of course, accept that you´re sorry, and maybe we can draw a line here, somehow.

Look, there are two sentences, one by you, one by a racist. Find the similarities and mark them red, then let us talk about this again. If you find none, let´s forget the whole topic, because we will not get anywhere. If this at least makes you think for a second, we may continue or not, as you wish:
a) If you have difficulties understanding our sense of humour, you should better leave this board.
b) If you have difficulties fitting in, you should better leave this country.

But you really hate what is becoming of film music. And you let everyone feel it who doesn´t think the same way. You think that this is not personal, and that´s were I disagree. Yes, you don´t mean the person, but you mean what he thinks and likes. That comes too close to personal for my taste. But I said that before. Maybe we should just agree to disagree here.

Now that you mention it, no, I didn´t think for a second you would leave that alone. But there is me and wishful thinking, getting along just fine.

Erik, no, I don´t think you´re a racist, and no, I don´t think you hate people. But the way you react to some people is very extreme (as MANY people have pointed out during this discussion, so don´t blame that wisdom on me alone). You know that your way of dealing with things is ... stressful to some. So you can either accept that you will be called ... different things from different people over time, or you could try and be a more friendly jerk. No one - not even me - expects you to change your attitude, your point of view, your passion for what you believe is right. But if you would just try to be a bit less ... objective ... while people like me try to give you some space to express your feelings the way you do, I think we can come to a more friendly arrangement here. Not enough for a hug. But maybe for a hand shake, from time to time.

Any time!



So let me get THIS straight. If you thank me for something I should thank you right back. And just so that there is no disrespect you should then thank me for thank you for thanking me. And then I should thank you for thank me for thanking you for thanking me?



Sunil wanted to go to war... look who lost.



Well, here's the thing... and I think we have had this discussion before. If you put your opinions out there for other people to read be prepared for people to disagree with you. If I think back to our Dark Knight/ Batman Begins/Zimmer Sucks discussions you thought that my disagreement with your thinking was a personal attack. No, I was disagreeing with your opinion. I don't recall calling you names or calling you an idiot or what not. But you took it all very personally and took it as an attack against you. No, that's not what it is. This is a message board where we have discussions about film music and many, many times people will butt heads. Things will get heated but I'm not going to go so far as to call some one an asshole or a piece of shit or a racist just because I disagree with them... unless they really give me a good reason to do so.



Argh! When I say things like "If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen" or "if you don't like what is being said then feel free to leave" it only means that if you truly don't like my opinion or what is being said around here then you are free to leave. Go. If you don't like what's being said. Go. Just like if you don't like what's being shown on TV turn the channel. No one is forcing you to stay. I respect other peoples opinions... and if we all shared the same opinion this place would be a very boring place to hang out. As for Sunil... he was irritating... he irritated a lot of people around here... and as I mentioned before his actions around here were inappropriate. Glad to see him go. I think what really pissed me off about the whole Sunil issue was that he had many opportunities to say sorry and set things straight but decided to just fluff it off.



I have every right to express my opinions but anytime I have anything negative to say about film music you jump down my throat and then start putting words into my mouth. I think you want us all to live in this perfect little world where everyone agrees with everyone and if we don't like something we keep our months shut. I'm totally not into that. You might think that I'm always negative but that's far from the truth.



I have no problem with this. I'll do my very best to be a better person but there are just somethings that aren't going to change.

-Erik-

This has happened over the weekend, and Sunil's ban has now been lifted.