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- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010 edited
NP: "the chase/ grand canyon"-"the final game"-"greed"-"Chase" -"Cameroon border post"-"Budget meeting"- "the kraken"- "molossus"- -"i don't think now is the best time"- "like a dog chasing cars"-"160bpm"-"psycological recovery"
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
and Jordi's overdosed...
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
The bitch is OD'ing. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Erik Woods wrote
Sunil wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Say what?
-Erik-
Even now its still considered to be the best action score of all time.
By whom? It's just laughable to actually see that written above.
-Erik-
In another planet perhaps?
I'd take his TWISTER score over the cheese that is SPEED btw, but would never label that either, as 'best action score' ever.
DreamTheater wrote
Avatar (James Horner)
...hoped it would be more something like his 90s classics. I may like it a bit more upon repeated listens, but the new Titanic this sure as hell ain't. I was listening to Titanic like crazy when it released and the years after, sadly Avatar won't do the same. 3.5 stars for now.
Last time i checked it was 2010 and AVATAR is a perfectly up-to-date Horner epic score.
Nautilus wrote
-Horner doesn't know how to compose laments for vocalists like Lisbeth scott.
-The Childrens screaming.
- Thank God for that. We don't need more God-awful Lisbeth Scott moanings a la Lisa Gerrard / RC. At least he wrote something new for her.
- That's called a 'children's choir', something in which Horner excels in my opinion.
Southall wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I was at a party tonight for NYE tonight, and casual film lovers who know next to nothing about film scores were talking about Horner repeating himself. If its that obvious to people who normally wouldn't notice - and yet it isn't a problem for so many other composers - I think we're kidding ourselves when we say that it's all right as long as it sounds good.
They might notice the theme from Braveheart in Bicentennial Man, but if any "casual film lover who knows next to nothing about film scores" is seriously familiar enough with the music from Apocalypto or The Four Feathers that they notice it in Avatar, then my hat goes off to them. Most "civilians" who hate Horner do so for the same reason they hate Williams - because they don't want the music to be in the forefront.
And how come they ADORE Zimmer? It's way more in the forefront that those 2. I guess it has to do with stylistic and musical changes in the sub-genres involved (Zimmer=easy to digest rock, Williams, Horner = "boring" classical fanfares, for the 'civilians' might you).
Marselus wrote
Nautilus wrote
Apocalypto is one of the best score from Horner, it's one of the few times where he actually experimented and he really pushed hard his own limits.
I agree, but I´m not sure Horner keeps good memories of his experience on this film....
Does he ever?
That score is brilliant, for sure.
Timmer wrote
A "Roman" movie? D will be spinning in his head.
It wouldn't be the first time i "sigh"-ed through the last 4 pages of unread posts in this topic my friend. Especially at the points where "as far as some people are concerned, Zimmer is by far the best composer than Horner", i fainted.
Timmer wrote
Roy wrote
...so which is the other One ?
I bet You Think of Barber's Adagio For Strings...
Nope!
It's Vaughan Williams The Lark Ascending
Screw you. It SO IS Barber's adagio for strings.
Anthony wrote
NP : RESIDENT EVIL 5 - WATARU HOKOYAMA cues
Say what you like about this guy, he NAILS the big John Williams sound and what a beefy recording!
But nobody said anything else: the point is exactly that: the nailing of the John Williams' sound
Timmer wrote
NP : AGNES OF GOD - Georges Delerue
In film music very few composers come anywhere near close at choral writing to the sublime beauty of Delerue, quite simply, this is one of the most stunningly gorgeous scores ever written.
COULDN'T.AGREE.MORE.
Roy wrote
I would Chose Braveheart for an Oscar but that's May be because of a sentiment (That's one of thoose score I listen to film music in the first place) . Anyway if You mean that Prokoviev's Battle on the Ice thing I wouldn't exaggerate that influence, If You think about Holst's Jupiter That's diffrent Theme, there are similarities of course but again it's not an exaggerate.
I'd choose APOLLO 13 by far, simply because it's easily the worthiest of the two and of course a very, very good score in its own terms. Certainly one of Horner's best ones.
Martijn wrote
Recent purchase and now playing: Trois Couleurs: Blue - Zbigniew Preisner.
Ye Gods!
This is beautiful! There's that moody east european thing, but coupled with some very Trevor Jones-ish work (especially reminiscent of The Dark Crystal) as well as some thunderous choral works! That, together with the more introspective tracks and its overall lyrical quality makes this a huge asset to my collection!
Roll on the next two colours!
Prepared to be let-down. Nothing on the other 2 scores matches the brilliance of BLEU. First time you heard it? You know the lyrics are Greek, i imagine? It's a hugely influential and largely brilliant lyrical score for sure. That theme is simply i.r.r.e.s.i.s.t.i.b.l.e.
BobdH wrote
JP: THE NINTH GATE - Wojciech Kilar
The haunting main theme (Vocalise) stays with me long until the score has ended, even though I prefer the building strings from the theme for the Ninth Gate itself.
The thematic material for Corso surprised me in its rhytmic, light tone, yet it's very well woven into the score.
Theme-wise, this is a very strong effort, even though some Kilarisms aren't my cup of tea. Yet I still prefer his Dracula.
Ah, excellent score! Same goes for DRACULA. Such an underrated composer.
Southall wrote
Sherlock Holmes - Hans Zimmer
Its influences run far and wide, but this one's so enjoyable, just like Avatar I don't care. Easily the pick of his 2009 scores!
You're disturbed, right there in the head...aren't you?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
And your opinions on the other 69 pages of comments?
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Christodoulides wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Sunil wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Say what?
-Erik-
Even now its still considered to be the best action score of all time.
By whom? It's just laughable to actually see that written above.
-Erik-
In another planet perhaps?
I'd take his TWISTER score over the cheese that is SPEED btw, but would never label that either, as 'best action score' ever.
DreamTheater wrote
Avatar (James Horner)
...hoped it would be more something like his 90s classics. I may like it a bit more upon repeated listens, but the new Titanic this sure as hell ain't. I was listening to Titanic like crazy when it released and the years after, sadly Avatar won't do the same. 3.5 stars for now.
Last time i checked it was 2010 and AVATAR is a perfectly up-to-date Horner epic score.
Nautilus wrote
-Horner doesn't know how to compose laments for vocalists like Lisbeth scott.
-The Childrens screaming.
- Thank God for that. We don't need more God-awful Lisbeth Scott moanings a la Lisa Gerrard / RC. At least he wrote something new for her.
- That's called a 'children's choir', something in which Horner excels in my opinion.
Southall wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I was at a party tonight for NYE tonight, and casual film lovers who know next to nothing about film scores were talking about Horner repeating himself. If its that obvious to people who normally wouldn't notice - and yet it isn't a problem for so many other composers - I think we're kidding ourselves when we say that it's all right as long as it sounds good.
They might notice the theme from Braveheart in Bicentennial Man, but if any "casual film lover who knows next to nothing about film scores" is seriously familiar enough with the music from Apocalypto or The Four Feathers that they notice it in Avatar, then my hat goes off to them. Most "civilians" who hate Horner do so for the same reason they hate Williams - because they don't want the music to be in the forefront.
And how come they ADORE Zimmer? It's way more in the forefront that those 2. I guess it has to do with stylistic and musical changes in the sub-genres involved (Zimmer=easy to digest rock, Williams, Horner = "boring" classical fanfares, for the 'civilians' might you).
Marselus wrote
Nautilus wrote
Apocalypto is one of the best score from Horner, it's one of the few times where he actually experimented and he really pushed hard his own limits.
I agree, but I´m not sure Horner keeps good memories of his experience on this film....
Does he ever? That score is brilliant, for sure.
Timmer wrote
A "Roman" movie? D will be spinning in his head.
It wouldn't be the first time i "sigh"-ed through the last 4 pages of unread posts in this topic my friend. Especially at the points where "as far as some people are concerned, Zimmer is by far the best composer than Horner", i fainted.
Timmer wrote
Roy wrote
...so which is the other One ? I bet You Think of Barber's Adagio For Strings...
Nope!
It's Vaughan Williams The Lark Ascending
Screw you. It SO IS Barber's adagio for strings.
Anthony wrote
NP : RESIDENT EVIL 5 - WATARU HOKOYAMA cues
Say what you like about this guy, he NAILS the big John Williams sound and what a beefy recording!
But nobody said anything else: the point is exactly that: the nailing of the John Williams' sound
Timmer wrote
NP : AGNES OF GOD - Georges Delerue
In film music very few composers come anywhere near close at choral writing to the sublime beauty of Delerue, quite simply, this is one of the most stunningly gorgeous scores ever written.
COULDN'T.AGREE.MORE.
Roy wrote
I would Chose Braveheart for an Oscar but that's May be because of a sentiment (That's one of thoose score I listen to film music in the first place) . Anyway if You mean that Prokoviev's Battle on the Ice thing I wouldn't exaggerate that influence, If You think about Holst's Jupiter That's diffrent Theme, there are similarities of course but again it's not an exaggerate.
I'd choose APOLLO 13 by far, simply because it's easily the worthiest of the two and of course a very, very good score in its own terms. Certainly one of Horner's best ones.
Martijn wrote
Recent purchase and now playing: Trois Couleurs: Blue - Zbigniew Preisner.
Ye Gods! This is beautiful! There's that moody east european thing, but coupled with some very Trevor Jones-ish work (especially reminiscent of The Dark Crystal) as well as some thunderous choral works! That, together with the more introspective tracks and its overall lyrical quality makes this a huge asset to my collection!
Roll on the next two colours!
Prepared to be let-down. Nothing on the other 2 scores matches the brilliance of BLEU. First time you heard it? You know the lyrics are Greek, i imagine? It's a hugely influential and largely brilliant lyrical score for sure. That theme is simply i.r.r.e.s.i.s.t.i.b.l.e.
BobdH wrote
JP: THE NINTH GATE - Wojciech Kilar
The haunting main theme (Vocalise) stays with me long until the score has ended, even though I prefer the building strings from the theme for the Ninth Gate itself.
The thematic material for Corso surprised me in its rhytmic, light tone, yet it's very well woven into the score.
Theme-wise, this is a very strong effort, even though some Kilarisms aren't my cup of tea. Yet I still prefer his Dracula.
Ah, excellent score! Same goes for DRACULA. Such an underrated composer.
Southall wrote
Sherlock Holmes - Hans Zimmer
Its influences run far and wide, but this one's so enjoyable, just like Avatar I don't care. Easily the pick of his 2009 scores!
You're disturbed, right there in the head...aren't you?
I just needed to quote this just to be awkward. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Sunil wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Say what?
-Erik-
Even now its still considered to be the best action score of all time.
By whom? It's just laughable to actually see that written above.
-Erik-
In another planet perhaps?
I'd take his TWISTER score over the cheese that is SPEED btw, but would never label that either, as 'best action score' ever.
DreamTheater wrote
Avatar (James Horner)
...hoped it would be more something like his 90s classics. I may like it a bit more upon repeated listens, but the new Titanic this sure as hell ain't. I was listening to Titanic like crazy when it released and the years after, sadly Avatar won't do the same. 3.5 stars for now.
Last time i checked it was 2010 and AVATAR is a perfectly up-to-date Horner epic score.
Nautilus wrote
-Horner doesn't know how to compose laments for vocalists like Lisbeth scott.
-The Childrens screaming.
- Thank God for that. We don't need more God-awful Lisbeth Scott moanings a la Lisa Gerrard / RC. At least he wrote something new for her.
- That's called a 'children's choir', something in which Horner excels in my opinion.
Southall wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I was at a party tonight for NYE tonight, and casual film lovers who know next to nothing about film scores were talking about Horner repeating himself. If its that obvious to people who normally wouldn't notice - and yet it isn't a problem for so many other composers - I think we're kidding ourselves when we say that it's all right as long as it sounds good.
They might notice the theme from Braveheart in Bicentennial Man, but if any "casual film lover who knows next to nothing about film scores" is seriously familiar enough with the music from Apocalypto or The Four Feathers that they notice it in Avatar, then my hat goes off to them. Most "civilians" who hate Horner do so for the same reason they hate Williams - because they don't want the music to be in the forefront.
And how come they ADORE Zimmer? It's way more in the forefront that those 2. I guess it has to do with stylistic and musical changes in the sub-genres involved (Zimmer=easy to digest rock, Williams, Horner = "boring" classical fanfares, for the 'civilians' might you).
Marselus wrote
Nautilus wrote
Apocalypto is one of the best score from Horner, it's one of the few times where he actually experimented and he really pushed hard his own limits.
I agree, but I´m not sure Horner keeps good memories of his experience on this film....
Does he ever? That score is brilliant, for sure.
Timmer wrote
A "Roman" movie? D will be spinning in his head.
It wouldn't be the first time i "sigh"-ed through the last 4 pages of unread posts in this topic my friend. Especially at the points where "as far as some people are concerned, Zimmer is by far the best composer than Horner", i fainted.
Timmer wrote
Roy wrote
...so which is the other One ? I bet You Think of Barber's Adagio For Strings...
Nope!
It's Vaughan Williams The Lark Ascending
Screw you. It SO IS Barber's adagio for strings.
Anthony wrote
NP : RESIDENT EVIL 5 - WATARU HOKOYAMA cues
Say what you like about this guy, he NAILS the big John Williams sound and what a beefy recording!
But nobody said anything else: the point is exactly that: the nailing of the John Williams' sound
Timmer wrote
NP : AGNES OF GOD - Georges Delerue
In film music very few composers come anywhere near close at choral writing to the sublime beauty of Delerue, quite simply, this is one of the most stunningly gorgeous scores ever written.
COULDN'T.AGREE.MORE.
Roy wrote
I would Chose Braveheart for an Oscar but that's May be because of a sentiment (That's one of thoose score I listen to film music in the first place) . Anyway if You mean that Prokoviev's Battle on the Ice thing I wouldn't exaggerate that influence, If You think about Holst's Jupiter That's diffrent Theme, there are similarities of course but again it's not an exaggerate.
I'd choose APOLLO 13 by far, simply because it's easily the worthiest of the two and of course a very, very good score in its own terms. Certainly one of Horner's best ones.
Martijn wrote
Recent purchase and now playing: Trois Couleurs: Blue - Zbigniew Preisner.
Ye Gods! This is beautiful! There's that moody east european thing, but coupled with some very Trevor Jones-ish work (especially reminiscent of The Dark Crystal) as well as some thunderous choral works! That, together with the more introspective tracks and its overall lyrical quality makes this a huge asset to my collection!
Roll on the next two colours!
Prepared to be let-down. Nothing on the other 2 scores matches the brilliance of BLEU. First time you heard it? You know the lyrics are Greek, i imagine? It's a hugely influential and largely brilliant lyrical score for sure. That theme is simply i.r.r.e.s.i.s.t.i.b.l.e.
BobdH wrote
JP: THE NINTH GATE - Wojciech Kilar
The haunting main theme (Vocalise) stays with me long until the score has ended, even though I prefer the building strings from the theme for the Ninth Gate itself.
The thematic material for Corso surprised me in its rhytmic, light tone, yet it's very well woven into the score.
Theme-wise, this is a very strong effort, even though some Kilarisms aren't my cup of tea. Yet I still prefer his Dracula.
Ah, excellent score! Same goes for DRACULA. Such an underrated composer.
Southall wrote
Sherlock Holmes - Hans Zimmer
Its influences run far and wide, but this one's so enjoyable, just like Avatar I don't care. Easily the pick of his 2009 scores!
You're disturbed, right there in the head...aren't you?
I just needed to quote this just to be awkward.
And succeed you did.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Steven wrote
The bitch is OD'ing.
More than that Steven, he's playing HANS ZIMMER
He has very quickly, or conveniantly, FORGOTTEN THAT HE LOST A BET WITH ME.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Southall wrote
franz_conrad wrote
I was at a party tonight for NYE tonight, and casual film lovers who know next to nothing about film scores were talking about Horner repeating himself. If its that obvious to people who normally wouldn't notice - and yet it isn't a problem for so many other composers - I think we're kidding ourselves when we say that it's all right as long as it sounds good.
They might notice the theme from Braveheart in Bicentennial Man, but if any "casual film lover who knows next to nothing about film scores" is seriously familiar enough with the music from Apocalypto or The Four Feathers that they notice it in Avatar, then my hat goes off to them. Most "civilians" who hate Horner do so for the same reason they hate Williams - because they don't want the music to be in the forefront.
And how come they ADORE Zimmer? It's way more in the forefront that those 2. I guess it has to do with stylistic and musical changes in the sub-genres involved (Zimmer=easy to digest rock, Williams, Horner = "boring" classical fanfares, for the 'civilians' might you).
These guys, as it turns out, don't particularly hate Williams, and don't particularly love Zimmer. So no getting knickers in knots.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Hmm....member profiles....search for specific names......change status to banned...hmmmmLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010 edited
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Braveheart - James Horner
It's been a while (a VERY long while) since I listened to this. I'm not sure I will forgive it for really starting the trend towards Celtic music in film music (fortunately long since gone again) - but this one does it better than those which followed. Most enjoyable. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Nautilus wrote
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one.
You may have out-done Pawel with that particular statement. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Nautilus wrote
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one.
Now that's a bold statement. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Steven wrote
I just needed to quote this just to be awkward.
You need to QUOTE things now to be awkward?
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Christodoulides wrote
Martijn wrote
Recent purchase and now playing: Trois Couleurs: Blue - Zbigniew Preisner.
...
Roll on the next two colours!
Prepared to be let-down.
I was.
Nothing on the other 2 scores matches the brilliance of BLEU. First time you heard it?
Yep. BIG and VERY pleasant surprise.
You know the lyrics are Greek, i imagine?
The Unification Song? To be honest, I wasn't paying attention to closely to the lyrics.
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorLars
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
OUT OF TIME - Graeme Revell
a really good thematic crime-thriller score. he wrote a really cool main theme for the movie. nice "caribbean" music. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Southall wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one.
You may have out-done Pawel with that particular statement.
I think he meant "my all-time favorite scores, all in one" ?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
Southall wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one.
You may have out-done Pawel with that particular statement.
Fair enough if me disliking a certain major composer's approach and preferring another one makes me an idiot, then so be it.
I thought I had the right for my own vision of cinema without such judgements.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
Southall wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Lair (Debney)
My all time favourite score.
All in one.
You may have out-done Pawel with that particular statement.
Fair enough if me disliking a certain major composer's approach and preferring another one makes me an idiot, then so be it.
I thought I had the right for my own vision of cinema without such judgements.
Chill out! I didn't call you, nor do I think you are, an idiot! Everyone's entitled to an opinion. (Nothing to do with preferring Zimmer's approach to Horner's, by the way, which is perfectly valid even if I feel differently. But some of the statements you've made along the way are a bit far out!)
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
*sighs with relief*
Sorry, I am just learning some approach myself so I can be touchy.
Basically Horner always makes me think he overloads the movies. Zimmer DID his fair share of that, to be honest, but there are two things, I think that make me choose Hans:
1. Horner did it more often and in only a few cases it was appropriate (Legends of the Fall and Braveheart come to mind as the most notable examples)
2. Horner lost with Malick, Zimmer did.
I think Hans really needs to have a director not cutting his approach off, but constantly scaring him, demanding new stuff. As a person, Zimmer is a somewhat lazy human being and unless he wants to or made to, he doesn't reinvent himself.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2010
I think I'm getting a taste of the 2300 unread posts in the Hans Zimmer thread. They will remain unread while this life remains short.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
And nobody wants to discuss my idea of Elliot Goldenthal in a post-Saving Private Ryan war movie...http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
That's the sort of idea that's most likely to cause discussion if you've got the money to make said post-Saving Private Ryan war movie.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
Money not, idea yes
I think Pacific Theater deserves that treatment.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
And nobody wants to discuss my idea of Elliot Goldenthal in a post-Saving Private Ryan war movie...
Well, the most expensive tv series ever made will shortly begin showing, which is a SPR-style thing about the Pacific theatre... with music by Geoff Zanelli. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
You're serious?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
Ah, the pacific. Thankfuly for me, 'till now, i have forgotten who had the scoring duties.
Dear God.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
Southall wrote
Christodoulides wrote
You're serious?
Depressingly, yes.
http://www.hbo.com/events/pacific/
Spielberg seems to like his RC people. Hope that at least Zimmer's theme will be decent and if he decides to use the Japanese instruments in it, it should be.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website