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- CommentAuthorLars
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2013
Southall wrote
Josh B wrote
(I'll admit that as far as action scores go, Jack The Giant Slayer is pretty piecemeal. It doesn't have the coherency that say, Total Recall has. Of course, there's only one Total Recall.)
In fact there are two Total Recalls, though the more recent of them is admittedly difficult to recall at all. The first one was genuinely creative music that not only exists within its film and could only exist within its film, but also makes musical sense away from its film and is a masterpiece of modern symphonic music. The other... well, not so much. My biggest "everything's crap these days"-style problem is that there is so little to distinguish the score for one film from the score for another, similar film, regardless of who wrote the music. I'm sure John Williams or James Horner or Basil Poledouris or Michael Kamen or any number of other composers active at the time could have written absolutely blisteringly good scores for the original Total Recall and that they would sound absolutely nothing like Goldsmith's score. I'm equally sure that Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe, Henry Jackman, Marc Streitenfeld, Steve Jablonsky, Ramin Djawadi or any number of such composers could have written the score for the more recent Total Recall and it would have sounded pretty much identical to the one Gregson-Williams wrote.
it would have sounded almost the same, because all rcp guys have the same "teacher", they use the same tools and samples, they all have the same orchestrators and music editors and so on and so on. they have learned this "rcp sound". if marco beltrami would have scored this movie, it would have sounded like a "little" goldsmith score, because he learned all this stuff from goldsmith. if blake neely would have scored this movie, it would have sounded a bit like a michael kamen score, because he worked a lot in the past with kamen. the orchestration in all neely scores has the "kamen touch". maybe it's sad, that hans zimmer has this composers factory and not john williams or james horner. but that's life. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
Demetris wrote
It is disappointing that more and more people keep judging film scores outside their perspective, the films they were written for.
In our little circle that's Ok. We are a rare breed who enjoy both the music in and outside of the film. There is NOTHING wrong with judging the music on its own divorced from the images. It still needs to be good music to also function as a good film score.
-Erik-
It's not bad at all, of course; but it always aids you and your listening experiences if you also watch the film
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2013
Martijn wrote
NP: Brick Lane - Jocelyn Pook
What a lovely bit of work this is! Delicate, melodic and chocfull of that Indian flavour I like so much when employed as "spice" in an otherwise occidental type of score. I'm really enjoying this: it's got a great flow, is as lyrical as anything and really makes for a lovely album.
What a great find!
What a pooking marvellous little score!
Aren't all of Pook's scores? It's sad that she is so underrated and underused.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
There were dozens of good to great themes and melodies in film music just last year. The best of the best being Velasquez's stunning main theme from The Impossible! There's also Aaltio's feel good theme from Metsan Tarina. Horner's Spider-Man theme, the themes from Cloud Atlas, Silvestri's The Avengers, Lockington's Journey 2... wait a minute... look, I've already focused on this on my radio show. Tim, have a listen.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/the-best- … s-of-2012/
-Erik-
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDavid OC
- CommentTimeFeb 27th 2013
Finished again with Beasts of the Southern Wild by Benh Zeitlin and Dan Romer; definitely close to my favourite score of last year. That last track on the album is 6 minutes of pure film music magic.
Now onto Safe by Mark Mothersbaugh.
Loved the retro, brassy sound of this in the film, so far it sounds just as good on CD. Great to hear a composer stretching himself in a new direction - well, a new direction as far as I know. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
KRULL - James Horner
There is only one negative thing about listening to this score and that is the vivid reminder of just how empty and worthless life seems at all times one isn't listening to this score. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
Just finished:
John Williams - War Horse
Somehow this score became forgotten after last year and it's a pretty, very melodic work which also has its gravity. Fits the movie quite well, except for the rare Williams moments of the score just being there and not doing much. Still, Spielberg carefully spotted the film, as far as I remember and there is at least one (though restrained) moment where the music is allowed to shine and Williams achieved that with not much else than a solo piano, some strings and a reflective trumpet solo. No Man's Land is a great piece in and of itself.
Now listening to some tracks from the In Country bootleg, the score has shipped to me a few days ago. I made another big order today, a score one has to own if he regards oneself as a film music fan and since after this particular release there is no sense to order any other one, I just had to buy it. Cf. the relevant thread.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
War Horse is now possibly my favorite Williams work outside of the original Star Wars trilogy and Jurassic Park. The last few tracks with the Reunion theme are some of the most beautiful, heartwrenching music I've ever heard. That film is pure cliche and cheese but Williams somehow makes it work provided you can forget you've ever seen a film before.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
Southall wrote
KRULL - James Horner
There is only one negative thing about listening to this score and that is the vivid reminder of just how empty and worthless life seems at all times one isn't listening to this score.
Now here you go see? There are facts and there are facts but this, ladies and gentlemen is a FACT!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
I've experienced the evidence of this fact. And it is just that. A FACT!!! -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
I've never been able to make it through Krull in one setting. It's a well-written, incredibly overbearing score. I should try making a custom playlist to see if I can condense it a bit.
I tried to sit through the film a few months ago and shut it off after twenty minutes. Terrible doesn't even begin to describe it. I thought Cutthroat Island was a chore to watch but compared to Krull, it's a masterpiece. I have no idea how Horner was even remotely inspired from it. -
- CommentAuthorDavid OC
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
Lady in a Cage - Paul Glass
Complex score with a very distinct avante-garde feel to it. If you didn't know what it was, you'd swear you were listening to some classic 60's Goldsmith (Freud for example), North or Rosenman. It's challenging though and not an easy listen. The film's title and premise are bizarre enough to make me want to see it too! -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
PawelStroinski wrote
Just finished:
John Williams - War Horse
Somehow this score became forgotten after last year and it's a pretty, very melodic work which also has its gravity. Fits the movie quite well, except for the rare Williams moments of the score just being there and not doing much. Still, Spielberg carefully spotted the film, as far as I remember and there is at least one (though restrained) moment where the music is allowed to shine and Williams achieved that with not much else than a solo piano, some strings and a reflective trumpet solo. No Man's Land is a great piece in and of itself.
This is probably my favorite Williams score, next to War of the Worlds. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013 edited
Josh B wrote
I've never been able to make it through Krull in one setting. It's a well-written, incredibly overbearing score. I should try making a custom playlist to see if I can condense it a bit.
Try this.
Original LP sequence
1. Riding the Fire Mares (05:24)
2. Slayers Attack (09:22)
3. Widow's Web (06:20)
4. The Widow's Lullaby (05:10)
5. Destruction of the Black Fortress (08:40)
6. Epilogue and End Credits (04:48)
Total Duration: 00:39:44
OR the 1987 Southern Cross sequence.
1. Riding The Fire Mares (05:24)
2. Slayer's Attack (09:22)
3. Widow's Web (06:20)
4. Colwyn And Lyssa (Love Theme) (02:36)
5. Battle On The Parapets (02:32)
6. The Widow's Lullaby (05:10)
7. Destruction Of The Black Fortress (08:40)
8. Epilogue And End Credits (04:48)
Total Duration: 00:44:52
Or if you want more... the SCSE 1990 expanded reissue
1. Krull Main Title & Colwyn's Arrival (07:37)
2. Slayer's Attack (09:20)
3. Quest For The Glaive (07:24)
4. The Seer's Vision (02:20)
5. The Battle In The Swamp (02:41)
6. Quicksand (03:39)
7. Leaving The Swamp (02:01)
8. The Widow's Web (06:21)
9. Colwyn And Lyssa (Love Theme) (02:36)
10. The Widow's Lullaby (05:04)
11. Ynyr's Death (01:42)
12. Riding The Fire Mares (05:24)
13. Battle On The Parapets (02:55)
14. Inside The Black Fortress (06:17)
15. Death Of The Beast & Destruction Of The Black Fortress (08:36)
16. Epilogue And End Titles (04:54)
Total Duration: 01:18:51
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
David OC wrote
Lady in a Cage - Paul Glass
Complex score with a very distinct avante-garde feel to it. If you didn't know what it was, you'd swear you were listening to some classic 60's Goldsmith (Freud for example), North or Rosenman. It's challenging though and not an easy listen. The film's title and premise are bizarre enough to make me want to see it too!
I saw the film staring Olivia de Havilland a few months back. Quite good but had some disturbing scenes throughout! Quite strong for a B&W 1964 movie! -
- CommentAuthorDavid OC
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
Atham wrote
David OC wrote
Lady in a Cage - Paul Glass
Complex score with a very distinct avante-garde feel to it. If you didn't know what it was, you'd swear you were listening to some classic 60's Goldsmith (Freud for example), North or Rosenman. It's challenging though and not an easy listen. The film's title and premise are bizarre enough to make me want to see it too!
I saw the film staring Olivia de Havilland a few months back. Quite good but had some disturbing scenes throughout! Quite strong for a B&W 1964 movie!
Sounds good mate, you must be one of the few to have seen it! I imagine the score helped enhance the disturbing elements nicely. Will definitely keep an eye out for it.
The Words - Marcelo Zarvos
Subtly effective score with a small orchestral feel but always seems to have something interesting going on - like many of Zarvos's scores actually. To say the film deserved much less than this would be an understatement. -
- CommentAuthorchristopher
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
David OC wrote
The Words - Marcelo Zarvos
Subtly effective score with a small orchestral feel but always seems to have something interesting going on -
Agreed. It's a nice score with a some really nice moments. It kind of flew under the radar last year, but ended up being one of the better scores, I thought.
NP: JACK THE GIANT SLAYER - John Ottman.
First listen. So far, I like it! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
NP: MIDNIGHT RUN (Danny Elfman)
Hugely enjoyable score with a blues vibe.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
NP: Krull - James Horner
The 1987 Southern Cross program. 45 minutes of bliss!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
I am listening to The Gospel of John by Jeff Danna which is my most recent purchase. A highly intelligent and enjoyable score!
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
Erik Woods wrote
OR the 1987 Southern Cross sequence.
1. Riding The Fire Mares (05:24)
2. Slayer's Attack (09:22)
3. Widow's Web (06:20)
4. Colwyn And Lyssa (Love Theme) (02:36)
5. Battle On The Parapets (02:32)
6. The Widow's Lullaby (05:10)
7. Destruction Of The Black Fortress (08:40)
8. Epilogue And End Credits (04:48)
Total Duration: 00:44:52
That's my playlist of choice for this score. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
It plays like a beautiful symphony!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013
NP: Predator 2 -Alan Silvestri
For years this album was the only way I could get my Predator musical fix. Great album with a dynamite recording featuring one of the finest end credits cue you will ever hear!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013 edited
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Predator 2 -Alan Silvestri
For years this album was the only way I could get my Predator musical fix. Great album with a dynamite recording featuring one of the finest end credits cue you will ever hear!
-Erik-
you forgot a little word.......
FACT!
p.s. A professional drummer friend of mine was impressed by the bongo playing on the end credits and if I remember correctly the player is Mino Cinelu who played with, amongst others, jazz/prog band Weather Report.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeFeb 28th 2013 edited
Krull - James Horner
Trying the Southern Cross sequence. So far, so good. I thought I'd miss the main titles track more but it's mostly regurgitation of material heard later in the score and the Fire Mares track is a pretty rocking start.
I'd never really heard the Death of the Beast track before. The whole score sounds a lot like Star Trek II so no surprises there are direct quotes in there but the heart attack cue from Brainstorm, too? Oh, James. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2013
Josh B wrote
Krull - James Horner
Trying the Southern Cross sequence. So far, so good. I thought I'd miss the main titles track more but it's mostly regurgitation of material heard later in the score and the Fire Mares track is a pretty rocking start.
I'd never really heard the Death of the Beast track before. The whole score sounds a lot like Star Trek II so no surprises there are direct quotes in there but the heart attack cue from Brainstorm, too? Oh, James.
You're hearing it in retrospect. None of what you said mattered at the time.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2013
You're hearing it in retrospect. None of what you said mattered at the time.
It arguably doesn't matter now. Horner's habits are an easy target (and perhaps overstated). -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2013
Josh B wrote
You're hearing it in retrospect. None of what you said mattered at the time.
It arguably doesn't matter now. Horner's habits are an easy target (and perhaps overstated).
Over the years the target has become easy to hit for sure. Overstated I agree on too, I love Horner's music and mostly don't care about his cribs from classical works etc and yet sometimes I do!?
It's a personal thing and comes down to nothing more than how he joins the dots together, it either works for me or it doesn't.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2013
I'll admit that I prefer his earlier stuff over the later. It just has more life and energy to it. After Titanic, he evidently had more clout and started to pick projects that were overly serious and the music followed suit. That's let up a bit recently, with Avatar and The Amazing Spiderman. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 1st 2013
Captain Future wrote
I am listening to The Gospel of John by Jeff Danna which is my most recent purchase. A highly intelligent and enjoyable score!
Volker
Gorgeous isn't it?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.