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- CommentAuthoromaha
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
heard me some hook
me
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- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
I think it fits the Powell-in-love romantic style heard in stuff like Gigli or Two weeks notice and way more serious in I AM SAM. How is it any different than those firs 2 mentioned? Unless you consider them anonymous too
For the record, i just love this side of Powell.
I think those two you mentioned don't compare to P.S. I Love You. I really think that back then Powell didn't quite have the knack of scoring a hip kitchy romantic comedy and make it heartfelt and enjoyable (even worse with Forces of Nature, ugh).
But I think with P.S. I Love You, he's finally "got" it. Like it's been said by others, the word "lovely" plain and simple describes the score best. It's not a masterpiece but it's certainly good and flows very well. Better than those other wallpaper ones. Enough to make me actually look forward to more romantic stuff from Powell, not just his usual action forte (though I'd cry for years if he decided to quit the action stuff).
NP: The Water Horse, JNH
This one's gradually seeping in, and getting better every time.''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
No, they fit. Same style, similar instrumentation, same musical approach, similar tone and romantic mood overall.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthoromaha
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Mad Max
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP : THE SUM OF ALL FEARS - Jerry Goldsmith
One of Goldsmith's best later works, I think this is th second time in a week I've played it after letting it gather dust for some time.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
No, they fit. Same style, similar instrumentation, same musical approach, similar tone and romantic mood overall.
Hm, I dunno for me... Nature, Gigli and Two Weeks all had too many disruptive short tracks of just "rhythmic filler" where the emphasis is put on a little mindless rhythm and no melodic strength whatsoever. I have a real problem with pieces like that.
It's possibly why I have such a problem with Thomas Newman and the bulk of Black Hawk Down. Percussions can't be the sole focus of a piece, for me. I fall asleep.
P.S. I Love You struck me as having much fewer of those moments, and maintained a stronger melodic mood throughout.
NP: Wanted, Elfman
Giving this another shot. Still not "getting it" quite yet.''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
HeeroJF wrote
NP: Wanted, Elfman
Giving this another shot. Still not "getting it" quite yet.
Just curious... did you skip the song?
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
HeeroJF wrote
NP: Wanted, Elfman
Giving this another shot. Still not "getting it" quite yet.
Just curious... did you skip the song?
-Erik-
Oh no! Of course not. I never skip anything that was originally composed for a film. Especially not when it features the man himself singing!
It's not entirely my cup of tea (we're a long way from "This is Halloween") but still an interesting curiosity.
I'm in the middle of "Fox's Story" right now, and finding it kinda lovely. But the action material... it's typical Elfman chaos, and it's a long way from Batman Returns...''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
The song works WONDERS in the film. So does the whole score. Have you watched it?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP : THE DARK HALF - Christopher Young
I love Young's horror scores, they always have some lyrical-ness / melodies to sink your teeth into.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Yeap, couldn't agree more. Sets them apart from the usual thriller crappy sounds (not even music most of the times) that are supposed to haunt and thrill us.
Bregt: i too got a review copy of Splinter today; is it really that bad? I haven't played it yet.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
The song works WONDERS in the film. So does the whole score. Have you watched it?
And not only that, it's a GOOD song too! -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Bregt: i too got a review copy of Splinter today; is it really that bad? I haven't played it yet.
Perhaps you'll like this more than me.
ADAPTATION | carter burwell
Bought this one on eBay after seeing the movie (which was really cool, though the end was a bit ... quick). Weird score, with Burwell's style shining through the wickedness of the story.Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP:The boys from brazil (Goldsmith)
The waltz is great, but The whole score is not my coup of tea.
Next I will play:Medal Of Honor (Giacchino)
after to watch the impressive Star Trek trailer I want some Giacchino. -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Interestingly enough I think this is one of the years best!
-Erik-
If you mean, best boring score!!!! The movie was hogwash and the music didn't help. If you want to talk about anonymous score, this is one of the best example of it. Granted, there were a few, FEW, moments that showed a glimmer of promise, but overall, as a period piece, it failed. I'd take Trevor Morris work on The Tudors over this tripe. -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP: Troy - Gabriel Yared
Just starting out with "Approach of the Greek". One of the best rejected track ever. Oh, the grandeur, the pathos. Achilles' Destiny is another good track too, with the choir and brass and the strings. GEEBUS!!!
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP : BATMAN FOREVER - Elliot Goldenthal
Just fancied something very BIG and very LOUD
Shame Goldenthal got this gig with the shite Batman films.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP: Troy - Gabriel Yared
"D-Day Battle" Good track. The brass melody that started the track is such a great piece. -
- CommentAuthorHeeroJF
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
[Re: Elfman on Wanted]
The song works WONDERS in the film. So does the whole score. Have you watched it?
No... fell out of my radar this year. I get so few opportunities to see new movies. Would've liked to. I can actually imagine how that music would enhance this type of film immensely. But Elfmans' best effort of the year (or several recent years for that matter) remains Standard Operating Procedure, in my opinion. And I haven't seen that movie, either. Love that music. Even though I loathe and despise the cover art. I couldn't even bring myself to mention in on the "Bad Cover Art" thread.
NP: Planet Earth, Fenton
So rich, so much to discover in this music. Just like planet Earth itself...''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008 edited
lp wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Interestingly enough I think this is one of the years best!
-Erik-
If you mean, best boring score!!!! The movie was hogwash and the music didn't help. If you want to talk about anonymous score, this is one of the best example of it. Granted, there were a few, FEW, moments that showed a glimmer of promise, but overall, as a period piece, it failed. I'd take Trevor Morris work on The Tudors over this tripe.
I can see why some would think so. It's a very traditional, romantic, classically influenced score that doesn't go the melodramatic route. It's lush and sweeping yet not in that massive symphony orchestra style we are use to. It's a chamber piece which highlights solo instruments (harps, piano, oboe) which perfectly transports you to the time of Henry VIII. I also love the scores decent into a deep sadness which is ironically beautiful and exceptionally well done. And the exotic textures are a surprising addition to the orchestral palette.
This is a score that can easily grab a hold of you, wrap it's self around you tightly, digging deep into your emotions and not letting go until the last note is played... but it takes the right environment. Dim the lights, pour yourself a glass of wine, kick up your feet, close your eyes and let the music take over. That might be a bit much but it's score that I think you will appreciate if you give it your full, undivided attention.
I'm actually surprised that I like this so much because it does contain elements that I normally despise... the minimalism in "Henry Is Hurt" and some of the more modern techniques which in other period scores I would poo poo. Now, I haven't seen the film so I'm not sure if these elements are detracting but as an album it plays beautifully and there really a lot here to like. It's a wonderful journey.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
lp wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Interestingly enough I think this is one of the years best!
-Erik-
If you mean, best boring score!!!! The movie was hogwash and the music didn't help. If you want to talk about anonymous score, this is one of the best example of it. Granted, there were a few, FEW, moments that showed a glimmer of promise, but overall, as a period piece, it failed. I'd take Trevor Morris work on The Tudors over this tripe.
I can see why some would think so. It's a very traditional, romantic, classically influenced score that doesn't go the melodramatic route. It's lush and sweeping yet not in that massive symphony orchestra style we are use to. It's a chamber piece which highlights solo instruments (harps, piano, oboe) which perfectly transports you to the time of Henry VII. I also love the scores decent into a deep sadness which is ironically beautiful and exceptionally well done. And the exotic textures are a surprising addition to the orchestral palette.
This is a score that can easily grab a hold of you, wrap it's self around you tightly, digging deep into your emotions and not letting go until the last note is played... but it takes the right environment. Dim the lights, pour yourself a glass of wine, kick up your feet, close your eyes and let the music take over. That might be a bit much but it's score that I think you will appreciate if you give it your full, undivided attention.
I'm actually surprised that I like this so much because it does contain elements that I normally despise... the minimalism in "Henry Is Hurt" and some of the more modern techniques which in other period scores I would poo poo. Now, I haven't seen the film so I'm not sure if these elements are detracting but as an album it plays beautifully and there really a lot here to like. It's a wonderful journey.
-Erik-
It sounds like an album that I would like? I recall James ( Southall ) saying he liked it too.
And Erik, Henry the VIII ( eighth )
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008 edited
Timmer wrote
It sounds like an album that I would like? I recall James ( Southall ) saying he liked it too.
And Erik, Henry the VIII ( eighth )
Maybe a mix between Shakespeare in Love (an underrated effort - yes it won the Oscar but not a lot of people talk about it and it's very well done) and Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. Add some Desplat minimalism in there for good measure. It's not difficult music or complex by any means. It rather simple but the beauty in the orchestrations is what makes this a winner!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
I can see why some would think so. It's a very traditional, romantic, classically influenced score that doesn't go the melodramatic route. It's lush and sweeping yet not in that massive symphony orchestra style we are use to. It's a chamber piece which highlights solo instruments (harps, piano, oboe) which perfectly transports you to the time of Henry VII. I also love the scores decent into a deep sadness which is ironically beautiful and exceptionally well done. And the exotic textures are a surprising addition to the orchestral palette.
This is a score that can easily grab a hold of you, wrap it's self around you tightly, digging deep into your emotions and not letting go until the last note is played... but it takes the right environment. Dim the lights, pour yourself a glass of wine, kick up your feet, close your eyes and let the music take over. That might be a bit much but it's score that I think you will appreciate if you give it your full, undivided attention.
I'm actually surprised that I like this so much because it does contain elements that I normally despise... the minimalism in "Henry Is Hurt" and some of the more modern techniques which in other period scores I would poo poo. Now, I haven't seen the film so I'm not sure if these elements are detracting but as an album it plays beautifully and there really a lot here to like. It's a wonderful journey.
-Erik-
Your explanation makes sense as to why it sucks so much as movie score. I was actively trying to hear what the score was doing, and got the sense that it was just content to linger as background noise. Only a few moments when you get a sense of it trying to comment on something on screen. -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. Add some Desplat minimalism in there for good measure. It's not difficult music or complex by any means. It rather simple but the beauty in the orchestrations is what makes this a winner!
-Erik-
Please don't even mention Perfume in comparison to the Boleyn score. The Perfume score was beautiful in both setting, as score and as music. -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
NP: Troy - Gabriel Yared
The awesome continues. I might take up a listen of Ben-Hur after this, to continue this Golden Age feeling I have. May be... -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
lp wrote
Erik Woods wrote
I can see why some would think so. It's a very traditional, romantic, classically influenced score that doesn't go the melodramatic route. It's lush and sweeping yet not in that massive symphony orchestra style we are use to. It's a chamber piece which highlights solo instruments (harps, piano, oboe) which perfectly transports you to the time of Henry VII. I also love the scores decent into a deep sadness which is ironically beautiful and exceptionally well done. And the exotic textures are a surprising addition to the orchestral palette.
This is a score that can easily grab a hold of you, wrap it's self around you tightly, digging deep into your emotions and not letting go until the last note is played... but it takes the right environment. Dim the lights, pour yourself a glass of wine, kick up your feet, close your eyes and let the music take over. That might be a bit much but it's score that I think you will appreciate if you give it your full, undivided attention.
I'm actually surprised that I like this so much because it does contain elements that I normally despise... the minimalism in "Henry Is Hurt" and some of the more modern techniques which in other period scores I would poo poo. Now, I haven't seen the film so I'm not sure if these elements are detracting but as an album it plays beautifully and there really a lot here to like. It's a wonderful journey.
-Erik-
Your explanation makes sense as to why it sucks so much as movie score. I was actively trying to hear what the score was doing, and got the sense that it was just content to linger as background noise. Only a few moments when you get a sense of it trying to comment on something on screen.
Interesting how opinions can be so different. I think the score on it's own without having seen the movie plays on a more subconscious level in the film. It heightens the emotions on screen without beating you over the head. Sure, other scores have done this and I too get bored of those but there is something more in Boleyn. As I made mentioned earlier it's really the orchestrations, instrument choice and orchestral color and tone that plays the significant role in this score. And if you listen carefully themes or motifs are there and develop during the course of the score's running time. I think it's quite beautiful and succeed on it's own as a wonderful score album. Whether or not it's a good score in the film is up i the air until I see the movie... if I ever do.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
lp wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer. Add some Desplat minimalism in there for good measure. It's not difficult music or complex by any means. It rather simple but the beauty in the orchestrations is what makes this a winner!
-Erik-
Please don't even mention Perfume in comparison to the Boleyn score. The Perfume score was beautiful in both setting, as score and as music.
I'm talking about the use of atmosphere and solo instrument choices. I think both are similar. Low strings, glistening harps, and solo oboe. You can hear that in Perfume and Boleyn.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthoromaha
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Timmer wrote
NP : BATMAN FOREVER - Elliot Goldenthal
Just fancied something very BIG and very LOUD
Shame Goldenthal got this gig with the shite Batman films.
Would Goldenthal's style fit with Burton though? -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
omaha wrote
Timmer wrote
NP : BATMAN FOREVER - Elliot Goldenthal
Just fancied something very BIG and very LOUD
Shame Goldenthal got this gig with the shite Batman films.
Would Goldenthal's style fit with Burton though?
Considering he was able to pull off two great scores for two EPICALLY crap films, I think it's safe to assume Goldenthal would be suited for Burton. He's Goldenthal after all. -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeNov 18th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
I'm talking about the use of atmosphere and solo instrument choices. I think both are similar. Low strings, glistening harps, and solo oboe. You can hear that in Perfume and Boleyn.
-Erik-
Point taken.
