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The Valkyrie score has some merit for sure. Repeated listens have produced a fondness. Still not quite as excited about Long Live Sacred Germany as some but who knows how I'll feel tomorrow
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You can NEVER call yourself a true film score fan until you own CONAN THE BARBARIAN on CD!!!! no less.

I like that one too. Very atmospheric and quite soothing.

I'm always very wary of being so enthusiastic about suggesting the classics to newcomers. I don't want them to have such high expectations since they're more likely to be disappointed. Final Fantasy is not a score for everyone, and even Conan won't be to everyone's taste (although I dread to think).

...that said, they are great scores.

Just keep in mind we've had years and years of listening to these scores, so they get ingrained into our consciousness. I'm sure you have a few of them Ravi... one in particular.

I loved it, both score and movie but i agree that it's very underrated.

I have the firm belief that Goldenthal is a more intelligent composer than Zimmer, even though - and I stress this part - I love Zimmer's music. I think it's an opinion most will agree with who are familiar with both composers.

Does that make Goldenthal a better composer than Zimmer? I suppose that depends on how we choose to define 'better'. To some it might, to some it might not. To me? I'm not sure really. All I can say with any confidence is I love both of their music and I just happen to believe Goldenthal is the more intelligent composer.

Enemies, A Love Story - Maurice Jarre

Another Jarre score with instantly catchy themes.

NP:Black Hawk Down

Probably the worst choice to listen in the christmas season..

Why they put tracks like "bakara" or "mogadishu blues" ????

"hunger", "to the eart", "ashes to ashes" and "Still reprise" are really mind Blowing and they are great. Even "Synchrotone" has his....interest.

(I know your thougts D)

About the movie...I consider BHD the best war movie ever made. And by far scott best movie. (Alien and Blade Runner are good in terms of production designs, but for me they lacked "something" ).

I'd say the former is better. I'm wouldn't say it doesn't take skill to write dissonance, but when people look back at you, they're going to remember the guy who wrote all the memorable themes.

I didn't say that. I just mean, I'm tired to hear this things like "Zimmer never could compose this" or " A lot of orchestra = a better score".

for me, melody or the capacity or refresh the own composer style are concepts that makes a composer better are they are the real strenghs of a composer, IMHO.

I agree; capacity and volume is not a criteria for quality on its own. But Goldenthal's orchestras are most likely lesser in capacity than those Zimmer uses anyway so it's not a matter of "how big is your orchestra" Seriously, having a smaller ensemble and knowing how to properly arrange it will result in a much fuller, grander and coherent sound than 100 cellists playing the same riff in unison.

And in all honesty mate, and as much as i love Zimmer - and you know i do, i don't think he has what it takes to ever compose something like Final Fantasy or Titus. But i also don't think that there's any actual meaning in such relations, the "x" composer writing something better or like the output of the "y" composer.

Yes, that's the one I would have suggested to you. Very emotional music. Have you heardNine Months? It's in the same league, leaning on Mozart's style. It has a more "cutsy" quality to it. If you're looking for something with piano and more jazzy, I would recommend Regarding Henry.

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I don't if ever. You couldn't say some years ago the man behind "green card" could compose something like "Gladiator" ( i know, I kicked your weak point).

Anyway, it doesn't care if Zimmer can compose something like Final Fantasy or not. Goldenthal has composed only a few really good scores (if you ask me final fantasy is only the evolution of the earlier Goldenthal ideas ). So I prefer The Thin Red line, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, At world's End, The last Samurai, The Da Vinci Code, Spanglish....over just ONE really good score. Don't you?

I wonder if Goldenthal is capable to compose some good tune with the facility Zimmer does. Wich is really what goes directo to our heart.

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I always thought the main title was really a very special composition.

The reason I chose Zimmer as a comparison to Goldenthal is because I know Ravi is a fan and listens to a lot of Zimmer scores.

It's not a crime to compare two composers. I also don't think anyone has mentioned anything about what Zimmer can't compose and that 'a lot of orchesra = a better score'. That's absurd.

What we are saying, or at least what I'm saying, is that Goldenthal just happens to be the more intelligent composer. Just like Tchaikovsky was a more intelligent composer than Goldenthal. To make such a statement is not to take anything away from any of the composers in question, it's simply an observation.

I listen to Zimmer's music far more often than I listen to Goldenthal's just to throw a spanner in the works.

I mean some of the orchestral passages, especially in Chant, and also those passages in Tears of the Sun.