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I can to decipher ANYTHING in those thicker than thicker orchestrations. When it all comes together it sounds like a muddy mess. BANG SMASH BOOM SMASH LOUD LOUD NOISE NOISE NOISE! I think maybe it's just do to the fact that it almost seems to play at the same level with no sense of dynamics. I will have to revisit the score again but every time I think about out all I can think about is how in your face and bloody annoying it can get.

I can't believe I'm about to turn off my Kunzel mix to re-listen to this score...

-Erik-

PS - JESUS CHRIST!!!! I nearly pissed myself... my lord that first track is ugly!!! BADABADABA BADABADABA BADABADABA BADABADABA!!! HIT THE TIMPANI HARDER. PUT YOUR FUCKING FIST THROUGH IT!!!!!! LOUDER LOUDER LOUDER!!!!!!!!!!

But we aren't seriously comparing Goldenthal's graces and musicianship with Brian Tyler, are we? I Like his work, don't get me wrong, i am not very excited about his last 2-3 years though, but still comparing him with Goldenthal is also completely off and partly unfair to Brian to be honest.

I don't think it's that unfair on Brian. In fact it may be the nicest thing anyone's ever said about him!

My eyes must surely be deceiving me!

I've seen the movie and i loved how it served it. Plus, the songs are very effective and spot-on. There's melody in there, a style which he completely deprived of any kind of themes and in fact melody, later on, only to result it into complete drone clones.

NS: Aliens vs Predator: Requiem - Brian Tyler

NS? Yeah, Now Stopping. Fuck this is awful! Back to Kunzel... ahhhhh, The Raiders March. Much better.

-Erik-

Musicianship is musicianship, but remember that there is something called subtlety which Tyler doesn't have yet. Being loud for sake of being loud is not a virtue and that's what Tyler does quite a lot. His orchestrations are thick, VERY thick even, but there is not much sense of development in AVP: R. That's the thing. I love Decimation Proclamation as much as the other guy, but Tyler DOES need to learn subtlety. That's one of the reasons why I don't find him a film music promise or a guy to watch. He is just not much more than better orchestrated Remote Control, who also can refer to Goldsmith, Goldenthal or Horner when it's necessary. But it doesn't quite go further than a simple homage (yes, Jordi, this is how you spell it). He does have some rhythmic ideas here and there that are surely his, whcih you can see comparing AVP. Eagle Eye and Tokyo Drift, but it's STILL not something that gets him to be one of the greats today IMHO.

All I can take of that score is a good 7 and a half minutes, so I made a short suite with basically the only music that is of any decent value.

Raiders March shits all over Requiem, so good decision.

No, and i guess it's a completely different thing, right? Thanks for the recommendation. How would you describe the original score?

Scott's score is more about the doomed relationship and that main theme is a killer-- so much melody and grace for a sad, lonely character who's found a bright, albeit brief spark of joy. It's a short score at 30-35 minutes but it makes up for the length with melody and a good 'old-fashioned' orchestral approach.

The main theme has been used in the Die Hard movie towards the end (just before the Christmas song).

I haven't seen the original movie There's no DVD of it.

AVP:R is quite possibly the worst score I've ever bought!

I'm surprised you stopped the Kunzel for even a moment to put such junk on Erik.

Had to make sure that what I was saying above was indeed true. It was a big mistake but I had to confirm my feelings. Never again will I do something so stupid.

-Erik-

And some HOT Maverick/Ice Man action

But you're right... those flying sequences are fooking incredible... and of course "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins.

-Erik-

Oh you will! As will I, as will we ALL! You just won't make that mistake again.

I don't think Erik is overreacting in the slightest.