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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011 edited
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    I have stopped watching it now.


    I watched it all the way through, not very good really, I think you saved yourself some wasted time.

    There's a lot of unreleased score ( which I like a lot ), this is Arnold's most Barryesque score.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
    I didn't hate the film - in fact I'd take it over any of the Brosnans - but it was a let-down after the superb Casino Royale, certainly.
  1. Saw a documentary on Scottish history last night, specifically the Wallace/Bruce period. Boy, was BRAVEHEART a load of s%^t or what?
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
    franz_conrad wrote
    Saw a documentary on Scottish history last night, specifically the Wallace/Bruce period. Boy, was BRAVEHEART a load of s%^t or what?


    Braveheart is a laughably inaccurate film ( all that kilt wearing is as bad if not worse worse than Vikings with horns on helmets in Prince Valiant ). viewed as a fantasy romp it's very entertaining.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  3. Scott Pelgrim vs The World

    Only watch this if you have any affinity for videogaming or youngsters in garage rock bands, because if you don't you will get a splitting headache from this film. Loved the 8-bit rendition of Goldsmith's Universal fanfare and the many old-school sound effects. beer

    I enjoyed it because I can stand the goofy craziness that goes on in it.

    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  4. DreamTheater wrote
    Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.


    I don't know, what bothers me about BRAVEHEART is that it plays it with all the self-righteousness of truth. It's not just a historical romp, like GLADIATOR or the old ROBIN HOOD... it tries to be moving and serious about the world it creates, and that undercuts it a bit when you find out that all the titlecards attesting historical connection are a load of bunkum. I guess it's no worse than KHARTOUM or a Joan of Arc biopic. If the film was a masterpiece like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA or KUNDUN, that would be one thing, but with Gibson's sado-masochistic messiah narrative zeal on full show, and about 20 extras in the background as a substitute for an epic backdrop, it has always felt a very long way from that for me.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  5. DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    you mean the russian theme wink
    it's pretty standard yes, but the chase scene is good too.

    And the movie's pretty entertaining as well, it's basically Bourne by a female
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
  6. franz_conrad wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.


    I don't know, what bothers me about BRAVEHEART is that it plays it with all the self-righteousness of truth. It's not just a historical romp, like GLADIATOR or the old ROBIN HOOD... it tries to be moving and serious about the world it creates, and that undercuts it a bit when you find out that all the titlecards attesting historical connection are a load of bunkum. I guess it's no worse than KHARTOUM or a Joan of Arc biopic. If the film was a masterpiece like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA or KUNDUN, that would be one thing, but with Gibson's sado-masochistic messiah narrative zeal on full show, and about 20 extras in the background as a substitute for an epic backdrop, it has always felt a very long way from that for me.


    I know what you mean and that's fine if you take that into account, for me it tries to be a truthful account of the man, his many sacrifices and betrayals that ultimately lead to his doom, even if I know that it's far from reality, I love it for its pure cinematic value, Gibson's visual style and storytelling, the powerful acting and gorgeous score. Like all good stories, I don't mind entirely made-up elements or events. And looking at it from a film music fan's perspective, if it didn't have that tremendous Horner work being the heart and soul of the film, this film wouldn't move me to tears like it does every time, even if it is total bollocks history-wise.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
    DreamTheater wrote
    Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.


    Hollywood doesn't have to make it accurate at all. There all about money, ask Zuckerman.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
    I had to laugh last night. I'm watching Charlie Chan and the Feathered Serpent. Part of the plot involves searching for an Aztec lost gold mine in the desert of Mexico and here we have Charlie Chan dressed in his three piece suit!
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
    DreamTheater wrote
    franz_conrad wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.


    I don't know, what bothers me about BRAVEHEART is that it plays it with all the self-righteousness of truth. It's not just a historical romp, like GLADIATOR or the old ROBIN HOOD... it tries to be moving and serious about the world it creates, and that undercuts it a bit when you find out that all the titlecards attesting historical connection are a load of bunkum. I guess it's no worse than KHARTOUM or a Joan of Arc biopic. If the film was a masterpiece like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA or KUNDUN, that would be one thing, but with Gibson's sado-masochistic messiah narrative zeal on full show, and about 20 extras in the background as a substitute for an epic backdrop, it has always felt a very long way from that for me.


    I know what you mean and that's fine if you take that into account, for me it tries to be a truthful account of the man, his many sacrifices and betrayals that ultimately lead to his doom, even if I know that it's far from reality, I love it for its pure cinematic value, Gibson's visual style and storytelling, the powerful acting and gorgeous score. Like all good stories, I don't mind entirely made-up elements or events. And looking at it from a film music fan's perspective, if it didn't have that tremendous Horner work being the heart and soul of the film, this film wouldn't move me to tears like it does every time, even if it is total bollocks history-wise.


    Imagine a "serious" WW II film where all the soldiers were dressed like 17th century roundheads and cavaliers? That's pretty much about the equivolent of Gibson's Breaveheart.

    Mind you, I'm a bit of a dweeb when it comes to these things, even the far superior SAVING PRIVATE RYAN took me 'out of the film' when I saw the "Tiger Tank" sequence but I'm sure 999 people out of a 1000 wouldn't have noticed that.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  7. DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    Which cut of the movie did you see?
  8. yonythemoony wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    Which cut of the movie did you see?


    the director's cut, the longest one wink
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
  9. Thomas Glorieux wrote
    yonythemoony wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    Which cut of the movie did you see?


    the director's cut, the longest one wink


    Great. That's the one with the alternate ending, right?
  10. yonythemoony wrote
    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    yonythemoony wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    Which cut of the movie did you see?


    the director's cut, the longest one wink


    Great. That's the one with the alternate ending, right?


    ah, so there are alternate endings?
    I didn't know that, gives us another reason to check it out again smile
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
  11. DreamTheater wrote
    franz_conrad wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Hurray for Hollywood gloryfying the heroes of old... I've never looked at it as anything else than a historic romantic drama, with good vs evil, and many heartbreaking scenes. The film will always remain one of my faves! Who cares if it's historically inacurate.


    I don't know, what bothers me about BRAVEHEART is that it plays it with all the self-righteousness of truth. It's not just a historical romp, like GLADIATOR or the old ROBIN HOOD... it tries to be moving and serious about the world it creates, and that undercuts it a bit when you find out that all the titlecards attesting historical connection are a load of bunkum. I guess it's no worse than KHARTOUM or a Joan of Arc biopic. If the film was a masterpiece like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA or KUNDUN, that would be one thing, but with Gibson's sado-masochistic messiah narrative zeal on full show, and about 20 extras in the background as a substitute for an epic backdrop, it has always felt a very long way from that for me.


    I know what you mean and that's fine if you take that into account, for me it tries to be a truthful account of the man, his many sacrifices and betrayals that ultimately lead to his doom, even if I know that it's far from reality, I love it for its pure cinematic value, Gibson's visual style and storytelling, the powerful acting and gorgeous score. Like all good stories, I don't mind entirely made-up elements or events. And looking at it from a film music fan's perspective, if it didn't have that tremendous Horner work being the heart and soul of the film, this film wouldn't move me to tears like it does every time, even if it is total bollocks history-wise.


    True I know what you mean. We all have films that have moved us where history was given short shrift. I don't know why this one bothers me a bit more --- possibly just because of the acclaim?
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  12. Timmer wrote

    Imagine a "serious" WW II film where all the soldiers were dressed like 17th century roundheads and cavaliers? That's pretty much about the equivolent of Gibson's Breaveheart.

    Mind you, I'm a bit of a dweeb when it comes to these things, even the far superior SAVING PRIVATE RYAN took me 'out of the film' when I saw the "Tiger Tank" sequence but I'm sure 999 people out of a 1000 wouldn't have noticed that.


    Well I must be the most gullible film viewer of all time because most of the times when they show me stuff in historic films I take it that is how it really happened. I'll even forgive major flaws if the story grabs me enough to suck me in. For me it's all in the way it's presented in this type of film... if it doesn't border on the absolute ridiculous I'll accept it no matter what.

    And looks like we both are dweebs in our own special way... cheesy
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2011
    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Salt

    Enjoyable action film that kept me guessing how it would all end. Filled with action, it doesn't come as a surprise there's hardly any character depth at all. Or story for that matter. But that didn't stop me from liking it. But the score is pretty bland IMO. Only one cue stood out (the one on the boat).


    you mean the russian theme wink
    it's pretty standard yes, but the chase scene is good too.

    And the movie's pretty entertaining as well, it's basically Bourne by a female


    Only way worse wink
    DreamTheater wrote
    Scott Pelgrim vs The World

    Only watch this if you have any affinity for videogaming or youngsters in garage rock bands, because if you don't you will get a splitting headache from this film. Loved the 8-bit rendition of Goldsmith's Universal fanfare and the many old-school sound effects. beer

    I enjoyed it because I can stand the goofy craziness that goes on in it.



    This Scott character is really loveabe isn't he? The whole film is exceptionally clever, flashy and much, much fun. Glad you liked it. I loved it, a very fresh breath of air and - for once, not dull at all.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  13. Just finished watching a documentary on Jean-Michel Jarre that was originally shown on channel France 5 back in the late 2000's. Here's a link to the first 10 minutes of it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G38E2ycSo0

    It was thoroughly enjoyable and wants me to start listening to my Jean-Michel Jarre CDs again...I just need to find them!
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2011
    They're there somewhere in your 'Indiana Jones' warehouse wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeApr 1st 2011 edited
    Timmer wrote
    They're there somewhere in your 'Indiana Jones' warehouse wink

    Must be there somewhere. I hadn't bought these early CDs individually but as a boxed set (I only have the first 4-5 he did on CD) so the box should not be hard to find!

    BTW, the version of the documentary I saw (on Sky Arts) did have subtitles!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2011
    Temple Grandin

    Loved this. Claire Danes exceptional (I know, I know, saying that actors playing people with a mental disability are exceptional is so cliched - but she is). Really moving, inspirational. Martijn would hate it, probably franz_conrad would too. Alex Wurman's score is like Philip Glass filtered through James Horner and I WANT IT! (Not released, sadly.)
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      CommentAuthoradragon
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2011
    Southall wrote
    Temple Grandin

    Loved this. Claire Danes exceptional


    Could not agree more. If this hadn't been a "made for TV" film, I should think Danes would need to consider a visit to the Kodak Theater.
  14. Southall wrote
    Temple Grandin

    ... Martijn would hate it...


    Ha! I like it already!


    ... probably franz_conrad would too.


    Oh.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2011
    A bit Ron Howardish for you, perhaps, I thought. Mind you, it wasn't too Ron Howardish for me, so maybe not. Who can say?
  15. We watched The Walking Dead for the first time but probably will not watch the rest. It seems very polished and the effects seem good but there's not too much new to say about zombies. And it looks like it will head off into soapland.

    And it is a bit too bleak for my tastes at the moment.
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  16. But on a cheerier note (relatively speaking) Stargate Universe starts up again on Sky1 after a lengthy break.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2011
    Recount

    Fascinating, well-made film about the legal wrangling surrounding the 2000 US Presidential election. Some of the stuff in it is jaw-dropping - though I do accept that a film made by Hollywood types starring Kevin Spacey may not be the most unbiased source of facts. Good score by Dave Grusin - one of only four he's done since the turn of the century.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 11th 2011 edited
    Oorlogswinter ( UK title 'Winter In Wartime' )


    A really fine Dutch film that I really enjoyed, a young boy helps a downed RAF pilot in WW II Holland and thereby secretly helps the resistance, some nice twist and turns and a great performance from the young lad ( sorry, can't remember his name ), highly recommended.

    A fine score too.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt