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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
...do we trust Steven's taste and judgement?
Can't we have him bring pretzels or something?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
They live 5 minutes of each other and have never met!
I bring
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
What can I say? The last person I met on the internet was a 14 year old girl who turned out to be a private detective. How cool is that at that age!
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
Bregt wrote
They live 5 minutes of each other and have never met!
We don't really.
I bring :looza:
Yuh, er.... rain check on that one. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
Anthony wrote
What can I say? The last person I met on the internet was a 14 year old girl who turned out to be a private detective. How cool is that at that age!
Ah, you like the mature lady then? -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
Martijn wrote
...do we trust Steven's taste and judgement?
Can't we have him bring pretzels or something?
Hey! I have impeccable taste in women I'll have you know!
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 8th 2009
A friend apparently Tweeted Cheryl Cole and got Tweeted back. I'm not sure if I have the heart to tell him it probably wasn't her. If it was, I'm going to cry now. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Steven wrote
But he was a wizard, he could shoot them down with bolts of lightening or something. If he can't do that, then he sucks.
Gimme the pessimistic world of The Matrix any day (even though the two sequels aren't very good).
Absolutely adore the Matrix films, all of them. Never quite understood what people's problem with the sequels were.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Seriously? I quite enjoyed the first film but thought the sequels were horrible. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Erm, why?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
...do we trust Steven's taste and judgement?
Can't we have him bring pretzels or something?
Hey! I have impeccable taste in women I'll have you know!
I knew something was wrong with your tastes in womenLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
DreamTheater wrote
And besides, if Gandalf went himself, the story would have ended after 2 hours, and there is something such as Tolkien's books to follow.
That's exactly Steven's point i am sure But it's like asking why Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Superman aren't realistic.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Erm, why?
Cut and paste one of the posts you made earlier today in the discussions about CGI! But beyond that - they made no sense - had no characters which I found remotely engaging - featured some truly horrible acting - and yet also featured some of my favourite film music of the decade! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Southall wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Erm, why?
Cut and paste one of the posts you made earlier today in the discussions about CGI! But beyond that - they made no sense - had no characters which I found remotely engaging - featured some truly horrible acting - and yet also featured some of my favourite film music of the decade!
To me it's the original Matrix on a larger scale. A bit more confused yes, but the philosophy (and acting) behind the sequels is a flashier and more expensive Matrix. Not that far away in essence though.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Southall wrote
Seriously? I quite enjoyed the first film but thought the sequels were horrible.
I enjoyed Reloaded but Revolutions was rubbish. My main complaint about Revolutions was that our main characters seemed more like secondary characters with, for example, Morpheus turning into a Han Solo in Return of the Jedi like character.
Plus, I thought these films were about The Matrix... how much time did we actually spend in the Matrix in Revolutions? Also, the Wachowski brothers completely sucked the fun out of the sequels with their self indulgent, pretentious, full of shit scripts!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Oh yes, I forgot how pretentious they are. There's nothing worse than a ridiculous film which makes no sense and yet takes itself so absurdly seriously. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Southall wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Erm, why?
Cut and paste one of the posts you made earlier today in the discussions about CGI! But beyond that - they made no sense - had no characters which I found remotely engaging - featured some truly horrible acting - and yet also featured some of my favourite film music of the decade!
You summed it up for me in a nut shell.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
...do we trust Steven's taste and judgement?
Can't we have him bring pretzels or something?
Hey! I have impeccable taste in women I'll have you know!
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday....where's Friday, Saturday and Sunday? Or is that your rest days??On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And besides, if Gandalf went himself, the story would have ended after 2 hours, and there is something such as Tolkien's books to follow.
That's exactly Steven's point i am sure But it's like asking why Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Superman aren't realistic.
Doesn't have to be realistic to make sense. Gandalf clearly flew to Mordor on a massive flying creature. Why didn't he do that with the ring in the first place!? It's not as though they took the time in the story to explain why he shouldn't or couldn't have done that! Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Star Trek have different plot holes. (Well, JJ Abrams' Star Trek certainly does at least.) -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Timmer wrote
Southall wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Erm, why?
Cut and paste one of the posts you made earlier today in the discussions about CGI! But beyond that - they made no sense - had no characters which I found remotely engaging - featured some truly horrible acting - and yet also featured some of my favourite film music of the decade!
You summed it up for me in a nut shell.
Me too. Impressive CGI and music though. -
- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
Forgot to mention the ones I saw this weekend-
Color of Paradise (Rang-e-Khoda)
Iranian director Majid Majidi is better known for the Oscar nominated film Children of Heaven. Here he returns to similar territory with yet another moving film with a blind kid as the protagonist. Simple, beautiful and incredibly poignant!
Delicatessen
Like most other Jean-Pierre Jeunet films this is wicken fun and a little bizarre. An ex-circus performer is the newest tenant in an apartment managed by a butcher, and falls in love with his daughter. But there's something sinister in what the butcher is serving. Each resident has their own quirk which made it very entertaining.
Karin Viard is as hot as Monica Belluci! OMG!
And last night...
Le Professionnel
Jean-Paul Belmondo and Ennio Morricone. Fun flick with Belmondo (all style and swagger) as a secret agent who's back with a vengeance after being betrayed by his government. Is this a B-movie? The lighting/cinematography looked like it belonged to day-time TV serials. The Morricone score was as mono-thematic as I've ever heard. I do not recall hearing anything aside from n-variations of the main theme. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And besides, if Gandalf went himself, the story would have ended after 2 hours, and there is something such as Tolkien's books to follow.
That's exactly Steven's point i am sure But it's like asking why Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Superman aren't realistic.
Doesn't have to be realistic to make sense. Gandalf clearly flew to Mordor on a massive flying creature. Why didn't he do that with the ring in the first place!? It's not as though they took the time in the story to explain why he shouldn't or couldn't have done that! Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Star Trek have different plot holes. (Well, JJ Abrams' Star Trek certainly does at least.)
You can't actually inject all that logic in sci-fi, imoLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
The Final Conflict
An exceedingly silly film yet somehow completely watchable. But the score... just how the hell did Goldsmith come up with that? I've waited for years to see what some of those cues accompany. "The Second Coming" accompanies some people watching a 1980 computer show three dots moving towards each other - I couldn't believe it. I was expecting some sort of grand, lavish spectacle of Jesus walking on the earth. The stunning finale just accompanies some text from the bible! I just can't believe he came up with such magnificent music (one of my top ten favourite film scores) for that film. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And besides, if Gandalf went himself, the story would have ended after 2 hours, and there is something such as Tolkien's books to follow.
That's exactly Steven's point i am sure But it's like asking why Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Superman aren't realistic.
Doesn't have to be realistic to make sense. Gandalf clearly flew to Mordor on a massive flying creature. Why didn't he do that with the ring in the first place!? It's not as though they took the time in the story to explain why he shouldn't or couldn't have done that! Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Star Trek have different plot holes. (Well, JJ Abrams' Star Trek certainly does at least.)
You can't actually inject all that logic in sci-fi, imo
Huh? (Mostly because a) Lord of the Rings isn't sci-fi, and b) it's not just logic... it's common-sense.) -
- CommentAuthorplindboe
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
BhelPuri wrote
Le Professionnel
Jean-Paul Belmondo and Ennio Morricone. Fun flick with Belmondo (all style and swagger) as a secret agent who's back with a vengeance after being betrayed by his government. Is this a B-movie? The lighting/cinematography looked like it belonged to day-time TV serials. The Morricone score was as mono-thematic as I've ever heard. I do not recall hearing anything aside from n-variations of the main theme.
I haven't seen the movie, but from listening to the album I'd describe it as di-thematic. The le vent le cri theme is indeed repeated alot, but the secondary theme using the BACH motif is very cool and is dominant on the album as well-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKjG2iSgp0I
Peter
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Southall wrote
The Final Conflict
An exceedingly silly film yet somehow completely watchable. But the score... just how the hell did Goldsmith come up with that? I've waited for years to see what some of those cues accompany. "The Second Coming" accompanies some people watching a 1980 computer show three dots moving towards each other - I couldn't believe it. I was expecting some sort of grand, lavish spectacle of Jesus walking on the earth. The stunning finale just accompanies some text from the bible! I just can't believe he came up with such magnificent music (one of my top ten favourite film scores) for that film.
Y'know, because it took a few years for the score to be released ( it seemed like it would never get a release ) I went to see this ( 'watchable' is the right description ) numerous times just to get a fix of THAT score.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And besides, if Gandalf went himself, the story would have ended after 2 hours, and there is something such as Tolkien's books to follow.
That's exactly Steven's point i am sure But it's like asking why Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek and Superman aren't realistic.
Doesn't have to be realistic to make sense. Gandalf clearly flew to Mordor on a massive flying creature. Why didn't he do that with the ring in the first place!? It's not as though they took the time in the story to explain why he shouldn't or couldn't have done that! Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Star Trek have different plot holes. (Well, JJ Abrams' Star Trek certainly does at least.)
You can't actually inject all that logic in sci-fi, imo
Huh? (Mostly because a) Lord of the Rings isn't sci-fi, and b) it's not just logic... it's common-sense.)
SCI-FI, yeah, a wrong phrase on my behalf, make it adventures with doses of much unrealism, label it as you want. And what's the difference between logic and common-sense? Don't start with the lingo stuff, what i mean is that you can't actually measure such movies with much logic, common sense and be austere with them in this way; you just let go and let your imagination run.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
plindboe wrote
BhelPuri wrote
Le Professionnel
I haven't seen the movie, but from listening to the album I'd describe it as di-thematic. The le vent le cri theme is indeed repeated alot, but the secondary theme using the BACH motif is very cool and is dominant on the album as well-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKjG2iSgp0I
It's true though that the Le Vent, Le Cri theme is predominant.
In fact when I first had the LP and put it to cassette tape, I *re-inserted* the Bach motif several times to break the endless flow of it, so I can see BhelPuri's point.
Steven wrote
Christodoulides wrote
You can't actually inject all that logic in sci-fi, imo
Huh? (Mostly because a) Lord of the Rings isn't sci-fi, and b) it's not just logic... it's common-sense.)
While Steven is demonstrably right (there is no reason Gwahir couldn't have picked up Frodo then if Gandalf was too sissy, and it had been well established that the giant eagles could kick the tar out of anything Mordor could put up: ain't no beating a proper air force!), you all seem to forget Tolkien's motive to write The Lord Of the Rings.
The story is not supposed to be centered around common sense, as little as Morte d'Arthur, or the Beowulf.
It's all about the Grand Themes: the Quest, The Teacher-Pupil Relation, the Fall, the Redemption. Et cetera.
Linking those together is just some pretty looking Elmer Glue.
Don't think too hard about it.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
SCI-FI, yeah, a wrong phrase on my behalf, make it adventures with doses of much unrealism, label it as you want.
But Lord of the Rings isn't sci-fi. It's fantasy.
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 9th 2009 edited
AS i said: label it as you want. If you label it "Fantasy", this makes my point even stronger. If you accuse such a film for lack of common sense or logic, it's unfair and austere, imo. Same way as someone could judge Star Wars for being unrealistic or showing civilizations and planets that don't exist, for instance.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
