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The King Kong Album can be a bit tedious to listen to. I find myself skipping the first couple tracks to the journey/island/action section.

Jordi also pointed out "reasons" why JNH would have done a good job in creating the futuristic/world creation aspect of the movie. These, along with the King Kong action cues, are Jordi's broken reasons for suggesting that JNH would have compose a better Avatar score.

Nice quoting. Selecting only half his argument. Perhaps, "Dood"! You just don't want to understand him. Racist.

It shows how tedious KING KONG score is (for my ears).Newton Howard said he couldn't writte a better score with more time, but I don't believe him.

About Aliens, it's not the same textures that Avatar needed.And in fact, Avatar (how the insert notes and the final music shows) is a big collaborative score. Ian Underwood, Nicholas Dodd and the "temp tracks" had a lot to do with the final result of this score (Without then We probably had much more Horner's rumbling piano and singing birds in the action stuff. )

Anyway, You are smart enough (I want to think that, because if not you will be soon in the same category of Steven: "don't bother answering") to know what I meant, but as usually you only want to piss me off.

PS:Thanks , IP.

NP: far and Away (John Williams)

Remembering my travel to Scotland. One of the best experiences of my life, specially the road to a lighthouse in Skye Island.

The landscapes with Far and Away and Return of the King was breathtaking.

but it's not so usual in Horner's career. We all know Horner is a very closed mind about his music (take that how you want).

but Avatar is diferent. He had to addapt his style into the new era (and in my opinion with a lot of this muscular sound and modern style wich is dominating Hollywood). How he wrotte in the liner notes, in Avatar he worked very close with his orchestrators and synth programers. And this it why this score is a step (back or further, choose what you want) in Horner's career. " Destruction of the hometree" is clearly Horner, but "navi clans for the battle" or "War" contains really influences from other "sources"

A great example of that is Avatar first track "you don't dream in cryo". We have vocalist singing, the 4 notes and some string composition typical from Horner but do you really think the electronic bits and the muscular music from this track comes from Horner's penn? I don't think so.

being said that, Avatar is so easy to listen, so easy to enjoy that the 74 minutes seems 34.

PS: About the composer who you mentioned above, we all know how he works (sometimes for better, sometimes for worst)

I don't know (care?) if you're serious or not. But if you are, please provide proof.

Well said, Jordi! i completely agree with you. In fact, i am quite pleased with your point of view on the score Avatar. As you said, Horner should have adapted or changed himself to new era of Hollywood. To me, Avatar is rehash of GLORY + FOUR FEATHERS + APOCALYPTO (almost) etc. The most annoying stuff is that some critics around the world have rated this score as 5 star. Damn! Damn!. There are only three tracks are listenable ( Becoming one...., Jake First Flight.. and War) and others just blah, blah.....

I do, because it's like other things he's done in the past.

I'm sure he's used ghostwriters in his time (I doubt there's a Hollywood composer who hasn't) but I'd be amazed if he did on Avatar, given the timescales. The Nicholas Dodd stuff is not as pronounced as it is in most other scores he's worked on.

I did see it. I was so mesmerised by the film, I didn't really notice those bits (the only bit of score which I noticed which isn't on the album is the Aliens bit).

NP: Le Voyage et Ballon

This is fantastic. For me, probably the best release of old score last year, as it brought my attention to music from a film I'd never heard of before. The various expanded releases never get me so excited as something like this does, partly because a lot of the best bits existed on previous releases. This is like Journey of Natty Gann and Something Wicked this way comes - great to have at all.

Agreed! A wonderful album with some wonderful music.

Spaniards are a race now?

Tread VERY lightly, lp. I have said this before: this shit won't fly.

I am one who disagrees. I much prefer Meet Joe Black. (OK, Newman and his tiny, short tracks have never been my favourites in film music...)

It's my favourite Newman album, certainly.

The Green Mile for me.

Do you like Belgians?

-Jordi-

Ah. As opposed to the OTHER Nautilus.