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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
NP : MAD MAX BEYOND THUNDERDOME - Maurice Jarre
What a revelation this complete release of the score is, stunningly creative orchestrations, great themes...WOW!
They don't write em like this anymore.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Timmer wrote
franz_conrad wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
With the relative absence of John Williams, James Horner is simply the best orchestral writer in the world and even more, with all due respect to Williams who I adore, there are pieces Horner wrote I don't think Williams could do with his approach, like the opening cue of Enemy at the Gates.
ENEMY AT THE GATES is a very ironic case to cite when talking about there being things Horner can do that Williams couldn't.
I don't mean the Mahler quoted theme here, I mostly mean the flow of the cue.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorNautilus
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
NP: 2010 Summer Selection
The Prince of persia
Raid on Alamut
ostrich Race
Dastan and Tamina Escape
The Sands of Time
Monaco
Iron Man battle the droids
Airbender Suite
Blue Spirit
We could be friends
Flow like a water
This is Berk
See you tomorrow
Forbiden friendship
Test Drive
This time for sure
dragon's coven
Battling the Green Death
Counter Attack
Coming Back Around -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
Timmer wrote
franz_conrad wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
With the relative absence of John Williams, James Horner is simply the best orchestral writer in the world and even more, with all due respect to Williams who I adore, there are pieces Horner wrote I don't think Williams could do with his approach, like the opening cue of Enemy at the Gates.
ENEMY AT THE GATES is a very ironic case to cite when talking about there being things Horner can do that Williams couldn't.
I don't mean the Mahler quoted theme here, I mostly mean the flow of the cue.
You know what... Williams probably would have done the RIGHT thing and not even scored the opening scenes.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
That could have been Annaud's decision to have score there.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Timmer wrote
franz_conrad wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
With the relative absence of John Williams, James Horner is simply the best orchestral writer in the world and even more, with all due respect to Williams who I adore, there are pieces Horner wrote I don't think Williams could do with his approach, like the opening cue of Enemy at the Gates.
ENEMY AT THE GATES is a very ironic case to cite when talking about there being things Horner can do that Williams couldn't.
I don't mean the Mahler quoted theme here, I mostly mean the flow of the cue.
You know what... Williams probably would have done the RIGHT thing and not even scored the opening scenes.
-Erik-
I doubt it... Williams is not exactly one to hold back when it comes to spotting. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010 edited
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
You know what... Williams probably would have done the RIGHT thing and not even scored the opening scenes.
-Erik-
I doubt it... Williams is not exactly one to hold back when it comes to spotting.
Yeah... Saving Private Ryan is wall-to-wall music! And isn't that action music during the Speeder Bike Chase in Return of the Jedi AWESOME!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Martijn wrote
NP: Agnes Of God - Georges Delerue
Solemn, moving, reverent, introspective, at points disturbing.
And gorgeous. Just bloody gorgeous.
How'd you attain it? I would buy it used, but I'm not spending 45 bucks for a CD I may wind up not liking that much... -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
I've got it on vinyl but i am sure Martijn had the cd for way long now?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
I bought it when it wasn't 45 bucks.
Though I'd probably buy it for 45 bucks as well.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
You know what... Williams probably would have done the RIGHT thing and not even scored the opening scenes.
-Erik-
I doubt it... Williams is not exactly one to hold back when it comes to spotting.
Yeah... Saving Private Ryan is wall-to-wall music! And isn't that action music during the Speeder Bike Chase in Return of the Jedi AWESOME!
-Erik-
I don't know...I like the soaring choir that plays when they reach Stalingrad (Enemy at the Gates, I mean). It has a nice old-school feel to it.
But then again, that score is one of my all-time favorite Horner scores ever, so of course I'm biased.
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Martijn wrote
I bought it when it wasn't 45 bucks.
Though I'd probably buy it for 45 bucks as well.
And worth it, I would rarely say that about an expensive CD.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
Yeah... Saving Private Ryan is wall-to-wall music! And isn't that action music during the Speeder Bike Chase in Return of the Jedi AWESOME!
-Erik-
So you picked the only 90 seconds in the 140-minute Return of the Jedi without any music!? What's that proving to me? And Saving Private Ryan might not have much music, but it still has far too much (I think it would be a lot more effective without any music at all, except the end credits). Using Williams as an example of a composer using restraint in the spotting process is not going to wash! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Timmer wrote
Martijn wrote
I bought it when it wasn't 45 bucks.
Though I'd probably buy it for 45 bucks as well.
And worth it, I would rarely say that about an expensive CD.
Me neither. But if Giacchino's Star Trek is worth $35+shipping from SAE then I can't begin to compute how much Agnes of God is worth. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
$36 plus shipping? -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Yeah... Saving Private Ryan is wall-to-wall music! And isn't that action music during the Speeder Bike Chase in Return of the Jedi AWESOME!
-Erik-
So you picked the only 90 seconds in the 140-minute Return of the Jedi without any music!? What's that proving to me?
That any other composer would have scored that action sequence while Williams, WHEN SPOTTING THE FILM, decided against it and left the scene to play without music.
Southall wrote
And Saving Private Ryan might not have much music, but it still has far too much (I think it would be a lot more effective without any music at all, except the end credits). Using Williams as an example of a composer using restraint in the spotting process is not going to wash!
Again, if you look at other war films, the battle sequence are scored. Williams decided to let the battle scenes play without music. THAT'S GOOD SPOTTING, JAMES!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Roar! Michael Giacchino
A favourite amongst me and my housemates.
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Yeah... Saving Private Ryan is wall-to-wall music! And isn't that action music during the Speeder Bike Chase in Return of the Jedi AWESOME!
-Erik-
So you picked the only 90 seconds in the 140-minute Return of the Jedi without any music!? What's that proving to me?
That any other composer would have scored that action sequence while Williams, WHEN SPOTTING THE FILM, decided against it and left the scene to play without music.
Southall wrote
And Saving Private Ryan might not have much music, but it still has far too much (I think it would be a lot more effective without any music at all, except the end credits). Using Williams as an example of a composer using restraint in the spotting process is not going to wash!
Again, if you look at other war films, the battle sequence are scored. Williams decided to let the battle scenes play without music. THAT'S GOOD SPOTTING, JAMES!
-Erik-
Well, don't underestimate the role of the director in film score spotting. Saving Private Ryan liner notes go somewhere about "we decided not to score the battle scenes" which to me translated as "I, Steven Spielberg, decided".http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
Well, don't underestimate the role of the director in film score spotting. Saving Private Ryan liner notes go somewhere about "we decided not to score the battle scenes" which to me translated as "I, Steven Spielberg, decided".
Well, I assumed that people knew that the work of a composer is a collaboration between he/she and the director.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
Southall wrote
And Saving Private Ryan might not have much music, but it still has far too much (I think it would be a lot more effective without any music at all, except the end credits). Using Williams as an example of a composer using restraint in the spotting process is not going to wash!
Again, if you look at other war films, the battle sequence are scored. Williams decided to let the battle scenes play without music. THAT'S GOOD SPOTTING, JAMES!
-Erik-
I'm not disputing that! ALL of the best-scored war films leave the bulk of the actual battles unscored (I don't know if Goldsmith invented the idea with Patton, but that's certainly the yardstick the rest have been measured against ever since). But there is still too much music in Saving Private Ryan, and quite a lot of Williams-scored films. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Moving on...
NP: The Flash - Shirley Walker; Theme by Danny Elfman
Great TV scoring!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
NP: The Prince of Egypt - Hans Zimmer
Among some of the finest scores written in the past 15 years!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorBobdH
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010 edited
Certainly! The 'God-theme' is amazing (in The Burning Bush especially breathtaking, if I recall correctly). The songs, especially Deliver Us and The Plagues, are very strong as well and certainly a part of the score. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
The Chariot Race... how do you leave something like that off the original album?! It's one of Zimmer's top 3 cues of all time right there! Man, this score is so good!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Southall wrote
And Saving Private Ryan might not have much music, but it still has far too much (I think it would be a lot more effective without any music at all, except the end credits). Using Williams as an example of a composer using restraint in the spotting process is not going to wash!
Again, if you look at other war films, the battle sequence are scored. Williams decided to let the battle scenes play without music. THAT'S GOOD SPOTTING, JAMES!
-Erik-
I'm not disputing that! ALL of the best-scored war films leave the bulk of the actual battles unscored (I don't know if Goldsmith invented the idea with Patton, but that's certainly the yardstick the rest have been measured against ever since). But there is still too much music in Saving Private Ryan, and quite a lot of Williams-scored films.
I agree with you about Private Ryan, though the Lincoln Portrait variations in the score can be beautiful at times.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
I agree with you about Private Ryan, though the Lincoln Portrait variations in the score can be beautiful at times.
Oh, I think the album is just so beautiful. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
To me it's a bit too long, but yeah, the album is much better than the score in film, a rarity in John Williams scores, where while the albums are great they usually work even better in the movie itself.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
The Chariot Race... how do you leave something like that off the original album?! It's one of Zimmer's top 3 cues of all time right there! Man, this score is so good!
-Erik-
So true! An awesome cue!
A complete score would not be amiss! -
- CommentAuthorlp
- CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
NP: Speed 2 - Mark Mancina
Wow, not the same score that I remember. The sound is crisp and clear. Not many synthesized elements (as of track 4 anyway). I don't even remember the movie having this much score. -
- CommentAuthorjustin boggan
- CommentTimeJun 19th 2010
"Final Destination"
The late Shirley Walker provided an excellent dark score for this film that isn't just a bunch of electronic drones and crashes like some scores to scary movies these days.
Sad to think we'll never hear from her again.The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.